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2010-06-17 , 17:13
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They havent given it an Ovi store or many other of its promises, hell they even said this product wasn't for mass market but its now stocked by the worlds second biggest supermarket as of last week.
And most importantly the n900 is at the end of life as far as nokia is concerned, hence no transition to MeeGo and why they wont probably bother to update flaws (we will see if this proves to be right). Most consumers in these countries won't know they are being taken for a ride.
Point taken. I agree Nokia is horrible at the whole "phone company" game. But in the end they want to make money, and so by launching it towards a new massive market, they do so in order to sell more right?. And if the consumer base is big enough the apps will probably come. Not because they promised but for the love of more money. "Talk is cheap and greed is good" is the general tag-line. In any case, this greed to me this means further involvement, not abandonment.

Also, I wouldn't say that people in, say India are dumber that we are and could be taken for a ride more easily. They pretty much outsmart, us westerners, out-educate us and work harder for a salary then us. If I had to choose, we are most likely the dumb ones.
 

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2010-06-17 , 17:57
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...hell they even said this product wasn't for mass market but its now stocked by the worlds second biggest supermarket as of last week:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56167
And now you say one of the worlds biggest countries (India).
They (meaning Nokia) couldn't market hookers on a troop train. If they had any brains, they would've advertised it like the second coming or more pertinently, like the Palm Pre was, done joint campaigns w/Tesco and the like (or T-Mo in the US) - part name recognition, part features (multi-tasking, 5 MP cam, etc.) ... sold a lot of phones... and then used the proceeds to develop other things, the dalliance w/Intel, etc.

I look at the phone and I wonder how anyone could screw this up, but NOK found a way.
 

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2010-06-17 , 18:02
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Also, I wouldn't say that people in, say India are dumber that we are and could be taken for a ride more easily. They pretty much outsmart, us westerners, out-educate us and work harder for a salary then us. If I had to choose, we are most likely the dumb ones.
It is an interesting point but I feel the rich in developing countries are more likely to be taken in by the name of an internationally respected phone brand than we are. I could be wrong.
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2010-06-17 , 18:04
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i lost faith ^^
 
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2010-06-17 , 18:20
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Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
It is an interesting point but I feel the rich in developing countries are more likely to be taken in by the name of an internationally respected phone brand than we are. I could be wrong.
Nokia is big for sure, but is it bigger than the iphone hype, or the android hype? As a scandinavian guy I am more taken in by the nokia and sony eriksson brand names than the asian ones. Im guessing the complete opposite could be true for asia.

Hopefully we are all capable to decide what brand to choose by using our brains to decide. It's not like a quick google would tell you anything but the vast number of complaints about nokias n900/Maemo/OVI support (and some good stuff as well of course). And even "dumb" people google. In fact, they probably google more than anyone

But just like you, I could be completely wrong here
 
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2010-06-17 , 18:26
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Well using Google I found this:

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate...531_711820.htm

"Indian consumers prefer to have a mystic understanding of foreign brands," suggests Sengupta. "Homegrown brands perform well in the market when international competition is not present. When competing with international brands, homegrown brands become price sensitive and lose their value."
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2010-06-17 , 18:27
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i lost faith ^^
OMG! Call the nokia priest hotline and they will fix* you for sure, my son.

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2010-06-17 , 18:33
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Well using Google I found this:
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate...531_711820.htm
Nice one! I stand corrected. But the iphone/android hype should still be valid (not being homegrown brands). Nexus one is the google phone to the public.. pretty much nobody knows its actually htc. Talk about branding

All in all, I hope the n900 sells a ton in asia. India alone has 17% of the world population.
 
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2010-06-17 , 18:41
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No faith left and it was that bad that Ive just sent my n900 phone to one of those cash for mobile web sites and been ripped off in the process selling for £170 when i bought it direct from nokia full price in Jan.
What sparked this madness I here you cry out and the answer is simply.........................................Iph one 4. with many happy returns................................I hope!
 
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2010-06-17 , 19:22
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I would suggest reading about the prior people that have supported Maemo in prior iterations and take notice of one thing... whenever Nokia has ever announced a new iteration of their OS, it has been dropped within months of that announcement.

Faith is foolish right now to give to Nokia. They have not opened up their closed bits on Diablo, they will not open up the closed bits of Maemo 5, and they will never support MeeGo on any device directly and community support will fall short of full support; Mer (dead), Mer^2 (dead), OS2007 HE (sloppy), OS2008 HE (sloppy). This will go down as yet another situation where nobody will be happy with the community supported item(s).

I say this in a realistic tone with the idea that I may fully be proven wrong. I just have too many ways to point back to where WONTFIX bugs have never been fixed and the bits that depend on those items are either closed or never fixed by Nokia.

I'll put my faith in Nokia in only one thing now... they will release a new piece of hardware. That's all I'm willing to give them right now.
 

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