Originally Posted by bobh

If you think of the N900 as another smartphone, you may well be disappointed. If you think of it as an Internet Tablet with a phone bolted on, then you will probably be pretty happy with it.

Originally Posted by mhamza

Exactly
this shows how it is anybody's right to expect and disappoint
some are reasonable like expecting adding advanced phone options as long as you are providing a phone option to whatever tool, and avoid that feeling of Oh thank God we have a phone now on a tablet, because simply this is old option already in other companies, so if you accept to be left behind under the title of acceptance to whatever you get!! it is your right too

and here is example of how superficial and non sense expectations might be in the above quoted text, yet i wont ever attack him, it is his capabilities to think that his dell might have navigation, for whatever reason, he is newbie in notebook, he cannot understand the difference, and might be fooled by someone and sold it to him as a phone, but we cannot attack him
dear i feel sorry for your loss and don't worry wait for the dell updates might include whatever you dream of be patient

Originally Posted by Tedri Mark

Actually, it was a total joke. Why on earth would I expect that the laptop I bought, without a navigation program, would have one added on at a later date.

The fact that you thought I was totally reasonable in what i posted makes it very clear that

a) You want the moon on a stick

or

b) you are a troll

Originally Posted by ndi

I could think of my car as a stereo with a car bolted to it and the sound is pretty neat. This does not excuse the car from suddenly veering to the left if I play the stereo at the same time.

We aren't talking about advanced telephony here. I didn't say conference, conversation bridging, video call, even MMS. We are talking about a phone, bolted or not, that stutters in the middle of a call, fails to ring, can't take USSD (mandatory for many operators), has no Cell Broadcast and in many circumstances isn't just unwieldly, but downright unusable.

Bolted or not, if it hangs midcall on speaker and I can't press the red button and everybody hears my call it's below standard.

Plus, forget the phone. Is it a decent device one that can't play audio and browse the simplest of pages at the same time? Does it not imply that a Linux tablet with said specs can run such load with no issues? Lesser phones do.

I expect such issues to be resolved, in less than a year. It is not unreasonable. Feel free to add an argument against it.

And no I won't think of it as a tablet that makes calls. That may be a good trick to sleep better, but it's still wrong. Heck, if I think f it as a carrot, it's the best carrot ever.

Originally Posted by slender

*Facepalm*

Oh dear. You haven´t been long here (neither have I), but at least one thing what I have learned is that never ever use jump to conclusion mat. It makes you look like and assclown :|

Some of user here are Nokia employees. One of them Quim Qil has said IIRC (do not have citation right now) that please use Nokia care and Nokia conversations for feedback. Also this topic what we are discussing here has been discussed many many many times here and if you look Talk Faq ->rules from right side menu you got this:
http://talk.maemo.org/faq.php?faq=vb...q_tmorulestext
Also these rules have undergone long discussion. So for freaking sake please oh please! First paragraph there:

"talk.maemo.org is not operated by Nokia and is a community forum, so be aware that posts and topics specifically addressed to Nokia may not be seen by Nokia. Such threads or posts are allowed, but are subject to closure or deletion at moderators' discretion. To directly comment, complain or suggest to Nokia, please visit the official Nokia forums: Nokia Europe, and Nokia USA."

Is it too hard?No hard feelings but what´s wrong with people?

Originally Posted by mhamza

We are not yelling at anybody, no body is responsible for others to be disappointed at their own expectation.

i am Happy with my N900 as a Tablet and as a Phone, but,
what is the problem to expect more pleasure in being able to have a detailed log with call duration?
whats wrong with expecting a turn by turn navigation!
whats wrong with expecting a 3G video call

Originally Posted by ndi

We aren't talking about advanced telephony here. I didn't say conference, conversation bridging, video call, even MMS. We are talking about a phone, bolted or not, that stutters in the middle of a call, fails to ring, can't take USSD (mandatory for many operators), has no Cell Broadcast and in many circumstances isn't just unwieldly, but downright unusable.

Originally Posted by ndi

I could think of my car as a stereo with a car bolted to it and the sound is pretty neat. This does not excuse the car from suddenly veering to the left if I play the stereo at the same time.

Originally Posted by geneven

Careful: A moderator might notice your demeaning "assclown" remark and rebuke you!

I'm joking, I'm sure the moderators could care less. Now, if you were on another side of the issue, it might be a different story.

I worked for a major corporation for many years, and I can tell you for sure that I monitored all sites where the products we sold were discussed. Any company that doesn't do that is dumb.

What's wrong with you? Why don't you understand that? Don't let people think you're an assclown!