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2010-09-18 , 19:24
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#61
Just voted. We have a really impressive slate of candidates, and I'm excited about this election and incoming council, whoever wins.
 
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2010-09-18 , 19:39
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Originally Posted by pantera1989 View Post
Sadly if Meego is to be one day a mainstream OS..this is a necessary requirement. Most people (ie. not techies) don't want to search for dependencies. Heck most of them don't even know how to, let alone solve conflicts that may arise due to these dependencies.
How many people installing software from Ovi, Maemo Extras or Ubuntu know about dependencies; have to go hunting for them or resolve conflicts? Absolutely none.

The biggest point is that installing random software from random RPM files found on the Internet is a Bad Thing:
  1. It prevents any updates, including security updates, from being automatically made available.
  2. It doesn't fit in to the repo-oriented aspects of the security framework, which bestows capabilities based on installation source.
  3. It doesn't give any mechanism for QA before wider dissemination.
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2010-09-18 , 20:34
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Yeah, I said "remaining candidates" - you and attila77 need not apply ;-)
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2010-09-18 , 22:13
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#64
Originally Posted by Stskeeps View Post
This was posted to maemo-community minutes ago by Robin Burchell/w00t (was asked by him to repost as his network is bad):
Originally Posted by w00t
It was pointed out by a close friend of mine that I hadn't declared this when I stood, so I consulted Dave this afternoon about this issue, and as a result, my candidacy has been removed from consideration - I am no longer in the running as a candidate, and any votes I recieve will automatically be transferred to the next. (I don't know the full details of how this works. Dave?)
To clarify, this is not the case. For more details, please follow maemo-community, updating this information in two places will become tiresome.

A decision will be made by the Community Council (excluding Attila and myself) and/or Quim.

Currently, Robin is still a valid candidate in the election.
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2010-09-19 , 02:29
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
A decision will be made by the Community Council (excluding Attila and myself) and/or Quim.
Deliberation in process.
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My understanding of what traits would be necessary of a candidate for the next council term are:
Nobody is perfect. They are a team; hence ideally, the shortcomings of one member of the council are put in balance by the qualities of another member of the council. The voting system Maemo.org uses allows the voter to this into account. I surely did last time I voted!
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2010-09-19 , 03:35
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I've already cast my vote, but I'd like to hear the remaining candidates' views on the current MeeGo compliance spec draft (specifically the "no non-core dependencies allowed" rule discussed from this point onwards).
I have been following this discussion in the mailing list, and to put it bluntly, of all the things that have concerned me about the MeeGo project in the short time it has existed publicly, this issue is by far the most troubling. Choosing self-contained application bundles because they'll most easily slot into the myriad of soon-to-be MeeGo app stores is penny wise and pound foolish by a number of measures. More importantly though, brushing aside calls for a MeeGo Extras repository that can contain certified apps with the contention that the workability of such a system must first be proven is an insult to all those who have contributed to the design and implementation of maemo.org Extras as well as those who built the thousands of high quality packages that are distributed through it.
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I think we just identified sjgadsby's platform.
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I've already cast my vote, but I'd like to hear the remaining candidates' views on the current MeeGo compliance spec draft (specifically the "no non-core dependencies allowed" rule discussed from this point onwards).
I'd love to comment, but I'll be absolutely honest and say that it's over my head. This is one of the areas where I'm very much a Bear of Very Little Brain.

My approach were I on the council would be to endeavour to understand the principle, if not the details, and then seek the will of the community. Then it would be my job to promote that to the best of my ability.

If you want to be sure that all members of the council understand these things entirely - then don't vote for me!
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My approach were I on the council would be to endeavour to understand the principle, if not the details, and then seek the will of the community. Then it would be my job to promote that to the best of my ability.
See, this is why I gave you grief about running: methinks thou doth protest too much.

Your course of action is exactly what a good leader should do in such a situation. I had a good idea who my constituency was before and after I ran. So on any subject where I was not up to speed, I read their thoughts on it, and acted accordingly.

Many will call this a populist approach, and some will do so in derogatory fashion, but really-- isn't that what representation is?

Of course, there are those times when being a leader means acting on expertise that your constituency lacks or subjects they don't understand, but that's a different matter.
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