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2011-05-22
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#2231
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What I gather from this thread is that the NConsumerWhatever is going to be an awesome phone with eyedropping candy UI. However, it is not going to be the successor for my customisable, open pocket computer which I have been waiting. I hope to be proven wrong.
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2011-05-22
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last spec sheet for today
Name: N950 (Dev-Device)
Release: Coming this or next week
Availability: During or after Meego Conf. via e.g. Development program, maybe later via Nokia Web-Shop and/or amazon (everybody is ok with that?)
Body: Alu-Case
Thickness: 13-14mm
Display: 4" 854x480 or 960x540
CPU: 1-1,2Ghz Cortex A8 SingleCore
GPU: Omap3 DSP packages mentioned, so the SGX530 gpu
Storage: 32 or 64GB
Cam: 12MP AF (same as N8) with Dual LED-Flash
Input: touch (capazitiv), qwerty
OS: Meego (Harmatten)
UI: Nokia Next Sense
N9 (Consumer-Device)
Release: Q3/2011
Availability: everywhere
Body: polycarbonate or aluminium body
Thickness: <= 10mm
Display: 4" 854x480 or 960x540 (still hope for 1280*720p)
CPU: 1,2Ghz DualCore A9 (ST-Ericsson U8500)
GPU: Mali-400 (1-4 cores)
Storage: 64GB
Cam: 8MP AF (i still hope for 12MP AF)
Input: touch only
OS: Meego (Harmatten)
UI: Nokia Next Sense
So, good night to all.. see you tomorrow... with good news i hope...
Name: N950 (Dev-Device)
Release: Coming this or next week
Availability: During or after Meego Conf. via e.g. Development program, maybe later via Nokia Web-Shop and/or amazon (everybody is ok with that?)
Body: Alu-Case
Thickness: 13-14mm
Display: 4" 854x480 or 960x540
CPU: 1-1,2Ghz Cortex A8 SingleCore
GPU: Omap3 DSP packages mentioned, so the SGX530 gpu
Storage: 32 or 64GB
Cam: 12MP AF (same as N8) with Dual LED-Flash
Input: touch (capazitiv), qwerty
OS: Meego (Harmatten)
UI: Nokia Next Sense
N9 (Consumer-Device)
Release: Q3/2011
Availability: everywhere
Body: polycarbonate or aluminium body
Thickness: <= 10mm
Display: 4" 854x480 or 960x540 (still hope for 1280*720p)
CPU: 1,2Ghz DualCore A9 (ST-Ericsson U8500)
GPU: Mali-400 (1-4 cores)
Storage: 64GB
Cam: 8MP AF (i still hope for 12MP AF)
Input: touch only
OS: Meego (Harmatten)
UI: Nokia Next Sense
So, good night to all.. see you tomorrow... with good news i hope...
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2011-05-22
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@ Boston, MA
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K123,
I dont doubt the information you are providing, however can you clarify what you mean by "It doesnt make sense to give the non-keyboard one to developers?"
Are you saying that all developers, develop directly on the phone coding on the really small keyboard and that non-developers do not like having physical keyboards to type text messages, emails, web addresses etc???
Very bizarre statement, there are a lot of very popular consumer smart phones which have keyboards on the market currently so why should this be any different?
Other than what you say about the keyboard device having lower specs I dont see any issues and at that yourself and others have confirmed that it is still buttery smooth!
The information you guys are teasing us with is good to know however until Nokia publically come clean about these device(s) we will not know for sure... Until then I think there are a lot of expectant and hopeful people watching this blog and waiting on a great N900 replacement!
Also I fail to see why giving the consumer the choice between a keyboard or a keyboard-less device is a huge issue - let the consumer decide what is best for them and make some more money out of the release...
May not be perceived as such a Niche device if multiple consumer ready devices are released. If they are worried about the hardware on the "developer" device, I think from what everyone saw on the teaser it looks fantastic and bar the N8 there are no real competitors on the camera front!
I dont doubt the information you are providing, however can you clarify what you mean by "It doesnt make sense to give the non-keyboard one to developers?"
Are you saying that all developers, develop directly on the phone coding on the really small keyboard and that non-developers do not like having physical keyboards to type text messages, emails, web addresses etc???
Very bizarre statement, there are a lot of very popular consumer smart phones which have keyboards on the market currently so why should this be any different?
Other than what you say about the keyboard device having lower specs I dont see any issues and at that yourself and others have confirmed that it is still buttery smooth!
The information you guys are teasing us with is good to know however until Nokia publically come clean about these device(s) we will not know for sure... Until then I think there are a lot of expectant and hopeful people watching this blog and waiting on a great N900 replacement!
Also I fail to see why giving the consumer the choice between a keyboard or a keyboard-less device is a huge issue - let the consumer decide what is best for them and make some more money out of the release...
May not be perceived as such a Niche device if multiple consumer ready devices are released. If they are worried about the hardware on the "developer" device, I think from what everyone saw on the teaser it looks fantastic and bar the N8 there are no real competitors on the camera front!
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2011-05-22
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Originally Posted by OVK
It is very different from the N900. Maybe even too different. But it is Nokia's answer to Android and iOS. Its a different matter that it is experimental. This OS stands a chance against all others but will it be given another chance depends on how many phones Nokia sells.
What I gather from this thread is that the NConsumerWhatever is going to be an awesome phone with eyedropping candy UI. However, it is not going to be the successor for my customisable, open pocket computer which I have been waiting. I hope to be proven wrong.
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2011-05-22
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Originally Posted by jer006
Stupid statement on my part i think. What i mean. Small production already done. Give it to dev. Not enough for normal users as it is and no second production run.
K123,
I dont doubt the information you are providing, however can you clarify what you mean by "It doesnt make sense to give the non-keyboard one to developers?"
Are you saying that all developers, develop directly on the phone coding on the really small keyboard and that non-developers do not like having physical keyboards to type text messages, emails, web addresses etc???
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2011-05-22
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Originally Posted by Helmuth
Helmuth,
Niche Market? Niche? Hmm...
I read this word very often the last pages as excuse for the missing Keyboard. I wonder since when NOKIA has a problem to produce something for a niche market? I tought they took a u-turn back in February to take over a niche marked. Haven't they?!
Why else are they going to take over the small Windows Phone 7 market?
For me it's hard to understand. In my opinion Nokia should try to find a niche between the 3 successful systems Android, iOS and Symbian.
Blackberry found their niche, HP trying to find their market. Perhaps picking up the geeks would get successful in the long therm. But perhaps I found my mistake myself. Management is more interested in short therm profits instead of a healty business.
I don't belief trying to grab some slate Android customers will end successful... I guess they are getting rather frustrated.
Perhaps, a snap on Bluetooth keyboard (induction powered) would be a good idea. But I wonder if this keyboard could work without a already running kernel? (uboot at example)
take a deep breath and look thru the video Brock provided the link of
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=2202
i'm convinced what Marko Ahtisaari (SVP Design, Nokia) said in Paris last year still holds (and ANDroid still is a no go).
Symbian is running out of steam, but it is still 1.300.000.000 devices heavy; that means a LOT of innertia, rolling, rolling, rolling
they sold 4'000'000 N8s so far
rotten iPotatos has only really one device at one moment.
if NOKIA sells a couple millions units of every Symbian smartphone they release in the next couple years, they have time to adjust ¦-))))))
wp7 isn't a "niche market"
it is most likely the dominant smart phone OS within a few years, mostly because companies are very keen to have one OS from (file & print) server to smartphone. that can all be managed centrally from one Service Management Server for updates and authorisations and e-mails and anything else.
and if, on top of that, the smartphones in question use the same CPU architecture then the servers (Intel) and it is possible to distribute literally the same OS on all devices, that makes for economies of scales no company would want to miss.
or not have a part in, no?
and if it isn't going to be wp7, it'll be wp8
m$ has the $$$$ to stay mean & lean for a cycle or two and as we have seen on the PC market, it took them over 10 yrs to get it right and meanwhile they are the biggest software company in the world.
makes sense to work together w/ them.
even if IBM is a living testimony of how NOT to make it
Dell is an example of how it can work
obviously, NOKIA is neither IBM nor Dell, but then NOKIA and m$ are starting their collaboration under different auspices altogether (two mature dominant companies in their respective market; they can learn from each other)
Last edited by misterc; 2011-05-22 at 19:23.
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2011-05-22
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Joined on Dec 2009
@ Germany
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Originally Posted by Brock
cpu can also be single core A8. zehjotkah was just assuming it is u8500.
last spec sheet for today
N9 (Consumer-Device)
Release: Q3/2011
Availability: everywhere
Body: polycarbonate or aluminium body
Thickness: <= 10mm
Display: 4" 854x480 or 960x540 (still hope for 1280*720p)
CPU: 1,2Ghz DualCore A9 (ST-Ericsson U8500)
GPU: Mali-400 (1-4 cores)
Storage: 64GB or 32GB
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2011-05-22
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i can't confirm this but i think single core. still smooth ui and all so not bothered.
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2011-05-22
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Joined on Dec 2009
@ Germany
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#2240
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who cares if it’s single or dual core (besides marketing)? we are still talking about a smartphone and as long as this won’t replace a desktop pc i am fine with the performance of A8.
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