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2011-05-28
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That's so not nice of you guys. I put the abill thing on ignore long ago, and you keep quoting him everywhere so I still read this nonsensical posts of his. Don't do that to me! Have mercy! 
(He doesn't even know what the DE is nor what was written for the DE and what was there before … why bother?)
Back on topic, I tried the DE during the last days and found *-20.2 even more bug-free than *-23.1, the "real" SF-release. (For example, I cannot receive text messages in 23.1, while the feature works well in 20.2)
Just a recommendation in case some of you want to give it a try.
(He doesn't even know what the DE is nor what was written for the DE and what was there before … why bother?)
Back on topic, I tried the DE during the last days and found *-20.2 even more bug-free than *-23.1, the "real" SF-release. (For example, I cannot receive text messages in 23.1, while the feature works well in 20.2)
Just a recommendation in case some of you want to give it a try.
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2011-05-28
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Some screenshots from the first video:
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2011-05-28
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Originally Posted by tswindell
WOW you love to "nitpick" my words dont you just
Hardware has source code? I'm guessing you mean the closed software components' source code. Now, not withstanding you absolutely are not qualified to speak for "every single Maemo developer", those that have access to closed components for making the N900 work fully with MeeGo, are actively maintaining, patching, fixing them. Which is the biggest issue with them being closed, so non-issue.
The N900 is already "well and truely superceded", it's a three year old device, but for me it's still going strong. So those hardware specs look reasonible, the only thing that the N900 really lacks there is RAM, now, we've not even really scratched the surface for optimizations in MeeGo DE. It's unclear whether those articles on specs you posted are referencing tablet or handset, I'm betting tablet. but whatever.
MeeGo DE will very soon probably another couple of months be completely useable, I my self will be devoting a a few weeks of this time porting apps from maemo to meego so we're not lacking rthe niceties. If you think something is lacking rather than spouting your general "meego is bad" statements, specifically pointing out your areas of interest, and why you don't think they're up-to-scratch would greatly benifit our plans for the future.
and as a dev yourself you should know very well what i meant by hardware source code ! which i am not even going to explain it is so easy to understand.You want my suggestions do you... really?.
Your looking at the latest build of MeeGo that has no more than a few components running and it has slowed down sooo much i very much doubt you will get any app to run even if you are successful porting them over.
The very first thing that should happen with MeeGo is to at least get it into a state it is a flashable image over the Maemo os because your never going to free up enough ram to run anything, hence why it is so dammm slow running as a dual boot routine from an sd card.
First thing i looked at many many months ago was upping the ram and i consider this a must if it stands even a minute chance of running MeeGo, i am having problems trying to even get 512 let alone 1gb ram but i will still stab at it untill i can see a way not too complicated and workable if it is at all possible.
The N900 will run at 1ghz indef i would say looking at the overclocking thread so that is a plus but i no way see the device well and truly superceded not yet anyhow.
If true development is to be done getting MeeGo to run on an N900 then the only way is to devote a few of the devices entirely on MeeGo and start from scratch with the os and a clean install taking off alltogether Maemo.
He has got all the drivers it appears so the basic os can be set up very quickly and built up from there getting every component driven as comfortable as possible with no clashes or conflicts and one of the very first would have to be the bme component to keep the device alive.
I wish i had the time and the resources stskeeps has got as it frustrates the hell out of me to watch the meager progress going on right now over this length of time.
I could go on and on and on but to no avail because it will fall on deaf ears.
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2011-05-28
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abill_uk, please just shut up. You change moods and opinions every single day and it is getting horribly tiring for those of us who actually do things instead of moan all day. Do I really need to start a petition to get you ousted from here?
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2011-05-28
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Maybe we should start a petition to oust you out of MeeGo?.
abill_uk, please just shut up. You change moods and opinions every single day and it is getting horribly tiring for those of us who actually do things instead of moan all day. Do I really need to start a petition to get you ousted from here?
DO things? what do you do may i ask with MeeGo?????.
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2011-05-28
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Looks like this is turning into yet another popcorn thread. :/
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2011-05-28
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
I want everybodies, concise and objective feedback to make the MeeGo DE project better for everyone, you've never helped anyone here at maemo.org so why not start afresh at meego.com.
WOW you love to "nitpick" my words dont you just
You want my suggestions do you... really?.
Your looking at the latest build of MeeGo that has no more than a few components running and it has slowed down sooo much i very much doubt you will get any app to run even if you are successful porting them over.
I'm interested to know your benchmark, how has DE "slowed down sooo much"? And what is your reference, and what is slow. For me (excluding fennec) there has been considerable improvements with performance across the board, I bet you've never even booted MeeGo on your device/s.
Originally Posted by abill_uk
I still find it far beyond me how anyone can talk to people with such an insulting tendency as you do. You seemingly go out of your way to insult every developer on maemo and meego. The reason I actually don't care is because you are an idiot you have never contributed anything to our community except FUD, and disrespect. The only reason I reply to your posts is because I have a bit of spare time and I want to reinforce the truth after your mindless non-sensical ramblings.
The very first thing that should happen with MeeGo is to at least get it into a state it is a flashable image over the Maemo os because your never going to free up enough ram to run anything, hence why it is so dammm slow running as a dual boot routine from an sd card.
First thing i looked at many many months ago was upping the ram and i consider this a must if it stands even a minute chance of running MeeGo, i am having problems trying to even get 512 let alone 1gb ram but i will still stab at it untill i can see a way not too complicated and workable if it is at all possible.
The N900 will run at 1ghz indef i would say looking at the overclocking thread so that is a plus but i no way see the device well and truly superceded not yet anyhow.
If true development is to be done getting MeeGo to run on an N900 then the only way is to devote a few of the devices entirely on MeeGo and start from scratch with the os and a clean install taking off alltogether Maemo.
He has got all the drivers it appears so the basic os can be set up very quickly and built up from there getting every component driven as comfortable as possible with no clashes or conflicts and one of the very first would have to be the bme component to keep the device alive.
I wish i had the time and the resources stskeeps has got as it frustrates the hell out of me to watch the meager progress going on right now over this length of time.
I could go on and on and on but to no avail because it will fall on deaf ears.
You damage this community with every post you make. I wish you'd just dissapear.
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2011-05-28
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Oh that was soooo funny it really was
bless your cotton socks.
On a serious note though we seem to clearly have a Maemo vs MeeGo situation going on here and that really IS a shame.
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bless your cotton socks.On a serious note though we seem to clearly have a Maemo vs MeeGo situation going on here and that really IS a shame.
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2011-05-28
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Originally Posted by marxian
I do not know why because twindell asked me for some help and i gave it so why is evryone going crazy now on the MeeGo side?.
Looks like this is turning into yet another popcorn thread. :/
I think I will switch once the basic stuff will work correctly and good. And from then, I think we'll see a fast growing and improving platform.
Some parts will remain closed source as redistributable binaries, or not? Then it would be nice if they could always be updated to the newest kernel verisons, not like in maemo. Edit: Kinda answered in the privious post.
Are the minimal specs really requiring 512 MB Ram for a smooth working meego? If so, then I wouldn
t see the point in making a DE for N900 from Nokias point of view. Still think it's FUD.
And what about the DRM(or something like that) stuff? I read about it a couple of months ago, and I have no information if it will finally come or not.
Anyway, good stuff. Could finally replace maemo in the coming months.