"I've talked a lot about how to increase people's sense of responsibility, empathy, listening to customers and each other and to avoid being arrogant," Elop said in an interview in Helsingin Sanomat on Wednesday.

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Idiot. Liar.

I am reading the subscription one dated 23 at the office....btw it may be the case two versions has slightly different posts...has the Finland version quoted the exact words from Elop and Nokia that has the unambiguous meaning of "N9 is the first and last MeeGo phone" or "Nokia rejects the plan to produce more MeeGo phone" like the translation said?

If so, can you quote it? Again, I am fine if it is really the case.

Do we at least get a Nokia "I own a f*cking NIT" barbecue, to go along with the whole Burning Platform rhetoric? Hope they don't expect us to turn our devices in for a 10% rebate on a WP PoS.

Hmmmm... Also, this thing is getting a lot of publicity. I wouldn't be surprised if it came along with a bucketload of bugs, just to "make a point" to the average computer illiterate user that Linux sucks and comes with a godamn whole lot of unsolvable problems.

Maybe this is phone is truly a good and solid strategy to get nokia's MeeGo intentions back on track (which I doubt), but more likely, this is the ultimate M$ advertisement that Linux sucks... Because it's one thing to hear it from a M$ spokesperson... And it's an entirely different thing to see the device BSODing all the time in your pocket, along with an "I told you so!" warning sign, and an "Nokia's Windows Phone is coming up, rebate for your phone!" marketing campaign.

Oh whatever, so much for truly derailed conspiracy theory rant.

There is no exact quote of Elop saying it.
According to Elop there’s no return to MeeGo, even if N9 would be a success.

It's not: According to Elop "there’s no return to MeeGo, even if N9 would be a success."

As usual we get a lot of hyperventilation over poorly understood quotes.

"Elop says that there is no return to Meego, even if the N9 is sales success."

No, there isn't. Nokia has made its choice to try and turn WP7 into the third major mobile ecosystem. If it turned around now as a result of the positive reaction to the N9 it would rightly be raped by the markets for utterly indecisive corporate leadership. Its shares would tank.

None of this is to say that there will be no further meego devices however.

Which means they won't ditch wp7 for meego. Nothing else. The fact he had to say this means they actually thought about it behind the scenes. A good sign.

Seriously stop this silliness please.
These are completly different articles.I have read both and they are different articles. Not different versions!

The one you insanely keep bringing up is article about N9 announcement in Singapore. That's the article on HS international edition. http://www.hs.fi/english/archive/ look at the date on archieve list. It's 22.6.2011, also know as yesterday. The content of that article is totally different from the one we discuss in this thread.

The one this thread is about has nothing to with it. It's a totally different article that has an interview of Elop done in Finland and published today. Different articles from different day by different writers.

Let me preface this post with the statement that I'm not an apologist for Elop.....

As CEO, from the operational perspective, he gets to say what gets to market and what doesn't.
Despite the push to WP, it is the Elop as the current CEO who has decided to go ahead with the N9 for the consumer market.
Remember that this device has come AFTER the N950.
From one of the Harmattan team, there is an admission that they worked feverishly to get it finished and polished enough for release and despite the multitude of rumours, we have already had a committment from Elop himself that Nokia intends to keep Meego for "future disruptions"
The "We are not going back to Meego" seems more to be a reference to the original plan to make Meego the core nokia high end OS.
Elop is committed to WP as their sole smartphone OS, but this does not exclude the release of other "disruptive" platforms.
Furthermore, Nokia has already made it clear (I posted the "forward looking statements" elsewhere) that everything they are doing now is subject to change "These statements are based on management’s best assumptions and beliefs in light of the information currently available to it. Because they involve risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from the results that we currently expect. Factors that could cause these differences include, but are not limited to: 1) our ability to succeed in creating a competitive smartphone platform for high-quality differentiated winning smartphones"

don't think for a minute that if the N9 takes off and is a raging success, that they won't have an opt out clause in the MS deal, to let them push more meego/harmattan devices.

just my .02

he knows for sure it wont be successful N9 is just to release something this year WPx is getting dressed up.

agreed.

evidence for that statement?

i would more readily accept it if it said; "Elop is committed to WP as their sole smartphone platform" i.e. separate business unit, as we already know that Meego is ceasing to be a 'platform' in Nokia, and becoming a 'project'.