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2011-07-02
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Man mikecomputing you should really drink a Valium milkshake. I'd be very surprised if Elop didn't want the N9 to succeed; they've spent a lot of money on R&D for it, why would they not attempt to make a profit?
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2011-07-02
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Originally Posted by rentze
It's swap space in RAM (compressed, works rather well on older devices so I'm happy to see it out of the box), rather than any sort of "mass storage" device.
No, that's not RAM, even technically.
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2011-07-02
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N950 has 512MB RAM according to all the specs I've seen so far (don't remember where right now). Perhaps this was changed still, but I doubt it.
N9 has 1GB of "true" RAM of course, no swap cheating.
Also, whatever you think about Elop, he seems pretty keen on the N9. Of course it's a tough situation, but from his point of view the N9 both shows what Nokia is capable of, and what we will see in future devices. He just doesn't want us or everyone else to forget what Nokia's long-term plan is... And I can't entirely fault him on that, as frustrating as it can be.
With the developer program, the marketing of the N9 so far, and the attention it gets on developer.nokia.com, I really can't complain about a lack of effort though. You can only do so much to support application development for a dead platform, but I think that Nokia is doing it.
Also, "dead" is probably not the right term anyway. It is dead in the sense that there won't be major updates of the OS for customers in the future, but for developers the platform is far less dead thanks to Qt and Nokia's plans with it.
N9 has 1GB of "true" RAM of course, no swap cheating.
Also, whatever you think about Elop, he seems pretty keen on the N9. Of course it's a tough situation, but from his point of view the N9 both shows what Nokia is capable of, and what we will see in future devices. He just doesn't want us or everyone else to forget what Nokia's long-term plan is... And I can't entirely fault him on that, as frustrating as it can be.
With the developer program, the marketing of the N9 so far, and the attention it gets on developer.nokia.com, I really can't complain about a lack of effort though. You can only do so much to support application development for a dead platform, but I think that Nokia is doing it.
Also, "dead" is probably not the right term anyway. It is dead in the sense that there won't be major updates of the OS for customers in the future, but for developers the platform is far less dead thanks to Qt and Nokia's plans with it.
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2011-07-03
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@ Finland
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Originally Posted by lma
N950 and N9 both have 1GB physical RAM. A smaller part of it is used for compressed swap in ram, based on http://code.google.com/p/compcache/ project. Prototypes before devkit release may have less physical memory (512MB) and that is normal process for hardware development.
@Jaffa or anyone else who has received a N950 already: does your dmesg output match the syslog on http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia_N950_Hardware_Misc? I'm a bit puzzled/concerned by this:
whereas I thought it was supposed to come with 1GB like the N9 (RAM isn't mentioned in the firmware release notes).Code:Jan 1 04:00:01 (none) kernel: [ 0.000000] Memory: 490MB 2MB = 492MB total
At least I hope they are not using this:
to justify calling it a 1GB device. Technically it's still RAM and it may be able to hold up to 1GB, but that would be stretching it a lot even for Nokia.Code:Jan 1 04:00:08 (none) kernel: [ 15.327514] ramzswap: Memory limit set to 65536 kB Jan 1 04:00:08 (none) kernel: [ 15.327514] ramzswap: Using backing swap device: /dev/mapper/encswap Jan 1 04:00:08 (none) kernel: [ 15.352386] Adding 466552k swap on /dev/ramzswap0. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:466552k
My N950 device shows 985MB of available RAM and 255MB of swap. As swap is compressed in RAM, numbers don't add up and that's expected too.
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2011-07-03
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Originally Posted by Kozzi
If they release the N9 at the same time as the Searay, the earliest that could be is Nov.
If what dsmobile said is true then my interest in buying another Nokia product is gone. Perhaps Pre could be a nice candidate among all those android phones, when it comes to Finland.
It could even drag out into Q1 2012...
If that's what happens, then I'll be placing my order for the no.1 WebOS & Android devices for Xmas.
6mth+ later I'll also buy a WP7x phone, but it won't be a Nokia.
Originally Posted by lma
Device details at developer.nokia says 1 GB RAM memory, & doesn't mention anything else.
<SNIP>to justify calling it a 1GB device. Technically it's still RAM and it may be able to hold up to 1GB, but that would be stretching it a lot even for Nokia.
Man that's the "straw that broke the camel's back" for me...
If it turns out the N9 also implements "RAM" like this, I don't think I can justify a purchase any more.
Especially in light of the possibility of artificial delays, & LT viability of the platform.
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Originally Posted by abbra
Oh thank god, I was about to blow a gasket!
N950 and N9 both have 1GB physical RAM. A smaller part of it is used for compressed swap in ram, based on http://code.google.com/p/compcache/ project. Prototypes before devkit release may have less physical memory (512MB) and that is normal process for hardware development.
My N950 device shows 985MB of available RAM and 255MB of swap. As swap is compressed in RAM, numbers don't add up and that's expected too.
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2011-07-03
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no hw keyboard no buy!
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2011-07-03
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BTW, all N950 from devkit have markings "Not for sale, developer device" and prototypes before that all have markings "Not for sale. Property of Nokia". If any of those devices occur on eBay or around for sale, you for sure will know that their sale is illegal.
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2011-07-03
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As an N900 user I am really happy about Nokia finally getting N9 out. I am getting one for my self and one for my girlfriend. Hopefully Jingle calls work as good as on the N900.
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2011-07-03
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Originally Posted by ericsson
I was thinking About buying it, but somebody mentioned that it is sluggish at times? Also, how is symbian Anna?
The N9 is over rated. The E6 is Da Man
So far my experience with the E6 is an exceptionally cool device for exceptionally cool dudes.
Anyway, the N9 rox
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2011-07-03
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Originally Posted by anim1
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1316
no hw keyboard no buy!
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1324
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