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#11
Originally Posted by Beni View Post
It still runs Windows Mobile yeah. Don't see how thats a con though.
I not only see it as a con, I see it as a show-stopper.
 
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Music: Other then the built in one. Are there any other good music programs out there? Possible with interia scrolling, playlist, podcast support, etc.

Video: One thing I hated about the N800 is that you have to transcode everything. Do I have to do that with the Dell Axim x51v?

Software: There are alot of good and useful programs right? If so, mind directing me to which ones? Also, is it worth going to Windows Mobile 6?

Games: Any good games?

Hardware: Does the Dell Axim x51v support the following: Bluetooth AD2P, Bluetooth Keyboard, SDHC Memory Cards? Is the Axim known to have good build quality? I've never owned an actual PDA before.

Yeah, I want a PDA so I can organize myself. I heard this is the best one out there. So I'm just wondering basically.. Thanks in advance! Unless the N800 can already do all of these things...
 
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I think you'll get a lot more info at the Aximsite forums...

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/

As for the "best", I'm not so sure. Having had many, HP has pretty nice build quailty, better battery life, better screen, etc. The X50v and X51v just gave a lot of bang for the buck and included the Intel video which gave it video horsepower. To do what it sounds like you want, you will need additional software. Starting with Coreplayer or TCPMP for video. That is an excellent program.
 
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Dell Axim can stream from Sirius.com, N800 no.
 
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I have been in the pocket scene for two full years. Have gone all the way from Axim X5, X30mid, iPaq 3115, Loox 600, Axim x51v. And the single thing I can say is WM sucks!. Yeah, it has great application base, but as an OS it hasn't improved in terms of user experience even a step from 2000 till now. Yeah, there has been some design changes, some internal ones, but as a whole.. it's the same.
The axim has really great CPU (PXA270@624), which overclocks incredibly (1014Mhz in my case), but the OS kills all the potential. Opera, MP# player, ICQ and a file manager. And that's it. Even a single file browser opened after that is a disaster. It's comfortably usable for multitasking up to two programs.

As for music players there are some quiet nice. PocketMusic and PocketPlayer are among my favourite. But I would not compare them to UKMP. Or Kagu. Or Canola.

What do you have to transcode for the N800? I watched at least two fims directly copied from the PC. The only downside is the size.


The GPU in the Axim is lite version of the one in N800. It's the same PowerVR MBX, but MBX Lite. It's incredible to play Quake 3 with reasonable FPS.
 
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Originally Posted by MoridinBG View Post
I have been in the pocket scene for two full years. Have gone all the way from Axim X5, X30mid, iPaq 3115, Loox 600, Axim x51v. And the single thing I can say is WM sucks!. Yeah, it has great application base, but as an OS it hasn't improved in terms of user experience even a step from 2000 till now. Yeah, there has been some design changes, some internal ones, but as a whole.. it's the same.
The axim has really great CPU (PXA270@624), which overclocks incredibly (1014Mhz in my case), but the OS kills all the potential. Opera, MP# player, ICQ and a file manager. And that's it. Even a single file browser opened after that is a disaster. It's comfortably usable for multitasking up to two programs.

As for music players there are some quiet nice. PocketMusic and PocketPlayer are among my favourite. But I would not compare them to UKMP. Or Kagu. Or Canola.

What do you have to transcode for the N800? I watched at least two fims directly copied from the PC. The only downside is the size.


The GPU in the Axim is lite version of the one in N800. It's the same PowerVR MBX, but MBX Lite. It's incredible to play Quake 3 with reasonable FPS.
Actually, I've heard alot of reports to the contrary. That Windows Mobile is actually pretty good. Someone on my local craigslist is selling their HP iPAQ hx2795b, which is the same thing as the Dell Axim x51v, just minus GPU, and plus biometric fingerprint thingy and better drivers. (AD2P, AVRCP, Bluetooth Phone Profile, etc).

UKMP, Canola, and Kagu in my experiences have been very buggy and crappy. I have about 400 movies and 8 seasons of some shows on my 500GB hard drive. Most of them I have already transcoded to 320X240 for mobile use (iPod, PSP, etc). Though the N800 won't play any of them. So I'm done with that.

Maemo has really been crappy IMO. I could say the same thing about what you have said and apply it to Maemo. Being "open source" is irrelevant really when its being crappy.

Not to mention that the N800 has no PIM software at all, or decent games, etc. So yeah, Windows Mobile time. As long as it is fast (videos of both the x51v and HX2795b show it is). I would get a x51v, since it has VGA, but it has less colors and a "worse" screen then the 2795b. Albeit it has a better GPU... thats about it.

If I could get a Axim locally, I would get it.
 
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Windows mobile??

Look at the screen resolution. How bad can it be. Compared to the n800's gorgeous screen the dell axim is really nowhere.

And i am not even going to talk about the mobile experience on ie. Is there any worse word then sucks.

I seriously cannot understand how winmobile is better than maemo. One thing it may be better is the program support. But that just came with time. just give maemo 6 months and it will blow you.

Until then we are very happy with the tablets. You go ahead and enjoy your windows mobile
 
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#18
Look at the screen resolution. How bad can it be. Compared to the n800's gorgeous screen the dell axim is really nowhere.
640 X 480 vs. 800 X 480? Oh wow, 160 more pixel width <_<. VGA vs WVGA. VGA wins since 4:3 > 16:9 for videos. (Most videos anyway)

And i am not even going to talk about the mobile experience on ie. Is there any worse word then sucks.
No, go ahead. And tell me which PDA you were using as well.

I seriously cannot understand how winmobile is better than maemo. One thing it may be better is the program support. But that just came with time. just give maemo 6 months and it will blow you.
When it comes to an OS, what else is there except program support? Usability? Speed? All dependent on device.

Until then we are very happy with the tablets. You go ahead and enjoy your windows mobile
Except.. I have a N800... what we are you talking about either? Speak for yourself.
 
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#19
I keep hearing people say the N810 won't play video files encoded for ipod, but I am running OS2008 on my N800 (same software) and can run ipod encoded .mp4 videos using the built in media player.

In addition once mplayer arrives the video capacity of the N8x0 will be unmatched. (I hear some people have gotten mplayer to work by fooling around with libraries/dependencies, but it is not 100% as of now)

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#20
I keep hearing people say the N810 won't play video files encoded for ipod, but I am running OS2008 on my N800 (same software) and can run ipod encoded .mp4 videos using the built in media player.
Doesn't work for me. It plays for about 15 seconds then crashes.
 
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