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2011-08-01 , 15:04
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#3221
Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post
That quick launch thing needed to be sorted out. I think devs have access to it, cuz there's an app that allows to extend up to 14 apps in it.
I started to respond to this, but it was turning into an essay, and I'm pretty sure I was breaking my NDA. Anyway, a few of your questions have been about usability. Rumor has it that Nokia is tweaking high-level functionality as we speak. When the dust settles, let's have a long discussion about usability. I've been using Maemo and iOS devices extensively for 3 1/2 years and I know what I like and I know what I don't like, as I'm sure you do.

QML seems very nice for devs i think, looks css'ish and javascript'ish. Should bean easy transition....but can it replace python altogether? It's that powerful?
As things stand, QML and Javascript can't completely replace Python and C++. C++ and Python remain the glue that connects the operating system to the UI. But adding glue between Python/C++ and QML/Javascript is ridiculously easier than writing Python bindings.

And now since you're so eager to post screen shots heh heh twitter app please
It doesn't exist yet, but as you can see, they have some of the infrastructure in place.

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When it's ready, the Twitter account setup, as well as Google Talk, should appear as a separate entry on this page:

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2011-08-01 , 15:12
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#3222
Here is a clip from that page and really it says it all, nobody seems to know what the hell Nokia are upto and that is even talking with people like qgil !.

Is no wonder this thread is going round in circles !.


I just don't know how to react to this post. There is just more questions and more confusions :
1- zehjotkah, where do you find this info ? Or is this just random thoughts ?
2- if it is true, why produce the N9 and do not recycle N950 devices into dev winphones ?

etc.
Well, I may just admit that Nokia is unpredictible ...
 
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2011-08-01 , 15:18
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#3223
"bakri_taher taher bakri
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@nokia when will n9 release in India...please do it fast coz i m lil desperate for that phone n vich OS is der in n9
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@nokia Nokia
@bakri_taher Will have more news on this for you in due time - no specifics just yet"

So N9 will come... later than Nokia 500...
 
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2011-08-01 , 15:36
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Originally Posted by daperl View Post
I started to respond to this, but it was turning into an essay, and I'm pretty sure I was breaking my NDA. Anyway, a few of your questions have been about usability. Rumor has it that Nokia is tweaking high-level functionality as we speak. When the dust settles, let's have a long discussion about usability. I've been using Maemo and iOS devices extensively for 3 1/2 years and I know what I like and I know what I don't like, as I'm sure you do.



As things stand, QML and Javascript can't completely replace Python and C++. C++ and Python remain the glue that connects the operating system to the UI. But adding glue between Python/C++ and QML/Javascript is ridiculously easier than writing Python bindings.



It doesn't exist yet, but as you can see, they have some of the infrastructure in place.

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When it's ready, the Twitter account setup, as well as Google Talk, should appear as a separate entry on this page:

Attachment 21846
Is there a way to subscribe to a user's posts? Does tmo support that? because daperl and a few others seem to be the only ones that aren't bickering back and forth constantly.
 

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2011-08-01 , 15:53
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Originally Posted by unfuccwittable View Post
Is there a way to subscribe to a user's posts? Does tmo support that? because daperl and a few others seem to be the only ones that aren't bickering back and forth constantly.
Yeah, i dunno how daperl is able to find my posts in all this mess, especially from abill's triple posting :/ tslk tsk He talks WAY too much

Thanks again daperl. Holla when the dust clears. My questions are all about usability cuz well, that's what's important. If it has what i need, I'm gonna get this phone Feel free to post any tidbits u find interesting though, it'll be greatly appreciated
 

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2011-08-01 , 16:21
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
History has shown:

IBM DOS -> Microsoft DOS
IBM in cooperate with Microsoft doing nextgen Graphical UserInterface after Win3.1 named OS Warp. But then "hey lets rape IBM copy the code and implement in Windows 95"

Same could happen with Nokia: Rape them, steal best lowlevel engineers work for WPx and also engineers from QtQuick and webkit engineer implement it in WP7....

But this time Microsoft will FAIL cause the engineers may very well go work for Intel with Meego or Google instead...
not only the developers.

sales may go to android, iOS, and not WP7-
 

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2011-08-01 , 16:40
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android just died long live meego harmattan!!!
 
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2011-08-01 , 16:48
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..and the cycle repeats.. *YAWN*
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2011-08-01 , 17:07
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Nokia as you well know have been involved in symbian for years so they obviousdly had the right kind of developers for that but when it came down to Maemo and MeeGo they fell flat on there face due to bad developers i think .
You estimate the SW development effort Nokia put behind Maemo was comparable to what they invested in Symbian during the years?
Personally, I think the resources they sank in Maemo was a drop in the sea compared to what Symbian got.
 

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2011-08-01 , 17:22
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Originally Posted by RFS-81 View Post
You estimate the SW development effort Nokia put behind Maemo was comparable to what they invested in Symbian during the years?
Personally, I think the resources they sank in Maemo was a drop in the sea compared to what Symbian got.
I dont think you understand my post at all because what i am saying is they did not do enough on Maemo or MeeGo and certainly a lot lot less than they accomplished on symbian.

The right kind of developers were just not there for Maemo or MeeGo.
 
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