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hotnikkelz is offline hotnikkelz
2011-08-11 , 18:34
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#3801
Sorry mikecomputing, but devs only flock to platforms that are being used in mass and not just ease of development. It's easy to develop for webos too....it uses css, html, javascript and a sprinkle of C++ if u choose, and look at that ecosystem. Not impressive is it. Meego/harmattan/symbian will be the same.

The limited release of n9, will be its undoing. US and UK are the 2 biggest smartphone consumers and it's not being released subsidized there. The n9 also isn't the iphone, so it won't sell well if it's unsubsidized. It'll just cost too much for most. Or more accurately, the price will further limit who gets it.

People are listening to Mr Flop, because he is the man controlling the direction of Nokia, we have no choice. Also his strategy cannot be branded as a failure (just yet) until SOMETHING is released. Instead say you forsee a failure or back it up with some actual facts.
 
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2011-08-11 , 19:09
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Originally Posted by hotnikkelz View Post
Sorry mikecomputing, but devs only flock to platforms that are being used in mass and not just ease of development. It's easy to develop for webos too....it uses css, html, javascript and a sprinkle of C++ if u choose, and look at that ecosystem. Not impressive is it. Meego/harmattan/symbian will be the same.

The limited release of n9, will be its undoing. US and UK are the 2 biggest smartphone consumers and it's not being released subsidized there. The n9 also isn't the iphone, so it won't sell well if it's unsubsidized. It'll just cost too much for most. Or more accurately, the price will further limit who gets it.

People are listening to Mr Flop, because he is the man controlling the direction of Nokia, we have no choice. Also his strategy cannot be branded as a failure (just yet) until SOMETHING is released. Instead say you forsee a failure or back it up with some actual facts.
There is nothing wrong with Nokias Qt framework or "ecosystem" Elop is just a ****ing troll. Its only about MARKETING I blame the old Nokia marketing deparment for this mess and also the new.
 
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2011-08-11 , 19:20
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Nokia not surpassed in smartphone sector? Yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...ording-to-gar/

Goodie gum drops!
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...89#post1066889

Podcatcher, pretty slick.
http://www.johanpaul.com/blog/2011/0...-for-nokia-n9/
Latest post from dev.....
As an update I can say that I've already made some visible additions and changed to the UI not shown in these screenshots or the video.
I hope you like them too! More about updates in a later blog post...

So sick of fracking vids, but this is a a doozey, 28min (n950 but... sigh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THAnd...layer_embedded
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2011-08-11 , 19:32
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#3804
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Are people hear blind!? Why does people just listen so much what MrFlop is saying? If people agree with Elops decisions I could understand. But pertsonally his and the rest of the boards strategy is already FAILING. This means they may get kicked out Q2 2012.
I dunno about you guys, but I sure am happy to regard the opinion of someone who has no business experience about a company's business decisions.

In other news, people will buy the N9 because they like the phone. Liking the phone is - believe it or not - strongly correlated with purchase of the phone.
 

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2011-08-11 , 19:33
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
There is nothing wrong with Nokias Qt framework or "ecosystem" Elop is just a ****ing troll. Its only about MARKETING I blame the old Nokia marketing deparment for this mess and also the new.
Nothing is wrong with QT at all, noone said otherwise. Devs love it. It's not only marketing to blame though, there's plenty of blame to pass around
I only hope that Elop has a very very solid plan B, for Nokia's sake. Time will tell, we'll have to see how it pans out.
 

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2011-08-11 , 22:10
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WTF IS GOING ON HERE !? I'm praying this thing doesn't get cancelled....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/
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2011-08-11 , 22:17
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Originally Posted by scapegoat845 View Post
WTF IS GOING ON HERE !? I'm praying this thing doesn't get cancelled....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/
Correct Link.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/
 

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2011-08-11 , 22:19
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Well put it this way, who ever 'they' may be are putting Stephen Elop's name to it, so it's a reply in his name.

It makes little difference, as it says the N9 will be available to buy online in the UK. I'm pretty sure that the report of the N9 being unavailable in Germany is also misquoted by a popular technology website. It will be available, however carriers may not stock or subsidies it.

It seems the decision to buy, at full price, without a plan, is ours.

I'm sitting on the fence for now.

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lol do you really think he is personally answering your questions?

its just some secretary who copy paste FAQ:s.
 

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2011-08-11 , 22:20
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#3809
I think they might have a half truth, given that the N9 will be available, but only via online retailers in the UK. I think Germany will be the same.


Originally Posted by yannis View Post
Correct Link.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/
 

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2011-08-11 , 22:25
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Originally Posted by scapegoat845 View Post
WTF IS GOING ON HERE !? I'm praying this thing doesn't get cancelled....

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...en-more-meage/
great news. the germany's money should go to greece, spain and italy so they can retire at 50 and get a few extra salleries during summer. not to nokia.

Send a device to me so i can pay nokia instead.

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