And Nokia transferred it's huge patent portfolio to another company that will most probably be suing companies like no day soon. Apple is suing, getting sued, Google will start defending itself and use Moto's patent portfolio, Samsung is now countersuing Apple.

Sure every company has right to get it's money back. Example Nokia's R&D costs have been around 4 billion euros and one of the largest in any industry, but it's really getting hot in the mobile space, a bit too hot.

I would not love anything else than Samsung to finally start designing some actually appealing looking phones rather than copying others and then downgrading them i still find the ipad and galaxy design stuff going on at the moment laugh worthy.

Just a note:
As I understood that patent transfer (by Nokia to Core Wireless) concerns about 2000 patents (not the whole "huge patent portfolio" - closer to 30000 - or something like that).

The N9 has just about the same hardware as the sgs2 except for the single-core cpu. That is definately not mid-end in my book, besides I'd rather take more battery time than more horse power in a handset. And iirc the camera in the N9 is a new module which may be more expensive and iirc the display got higher resolution than the sgs2.

I haven't tried the N9 yet but the N950 is very snappy and without hdmi i can't see the use with a dual-core anyway. It'll be very interesting to see reviews soon where they put the N9 against the competition. My guess is that the N9 will hold its own very well in all different kinds of tests. And with Qt/QML beeing the best app toolkit there will be plenty of good quality apps for the N9 too.

One thing that people should be aware of though is that Harmattan's UX is very simple (dumbed down). I wouldn't exactly call it geek friendly more like granny friendly. From what I've seen of Symbian Belle so far it slaughters Harmattan's UX if you just look at the features. Harmattan is made to be Meego for the masses so if you're looking for something to mod you should try it irl first before ordering. Of course, as the N9 got an open bootloader you can nuke Harmattan and run whatever you want on it but that's another story.

Edit: tv ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysvzFLJLeg

Edit2: camera test http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/18/lo...taken-with-n9/

gerbick tried to reason with abill.....again.
I chuckled some more

Have to give gerbick 10/10 for trying!

Anyway... OT alert!

Has anyone given thought to http://www.ics.com ? The users over at the touchpad forums are hoping for this rather than android.

Any links? I've not seen anything yet

...and 4 weeks later, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Don't miss the thrilling conclusion of the great Baltic saga "The Disappointment of the Nokia" right here in TMO!

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Turbo-revving young punk, I'll straighten you out yet!

So... especially if it COSTS like a sports car why would you not just GET a sports car... especially if it turns out to be cheaper than this knock-off?

Counterpoint!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p90_8JJQUI

Really!! We are talking about sports cars now??

Up until last year, we can probably still be categorized as an epic. What with the David vs Goliath theme.

Lately, I'm not sure whether we're in a tragedy or a drama. Or could be a satirical comedy.