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2012-01-04
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OMG, fix for vignette effect. It was haunting me for ages. Thanks a lot, man!
I totally agree with dire need to have it installed on N900. ufRaw is already available via N900, so it's last thing remaining to have fully working RAW photolab on device.
Last edited by Estel; 2012-01-04 at 09:24.
I totally agree with dire need to have it installed on N900. ufRaw is already available via N900, so it's last thing remaining to have fully working RAW photolab on device.
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2012-01-04
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Originally Posted by plaka666
No problem.What I found that profiles made from FCam files are better than Camera-UI2 Raw files and they can be applied to both FCam and Camera-UI2 raw files so you can use the file with any RAW file from the N900.
You just made my day - I've been looking for something like this for the past month. Do you have a profile you're using? If so, can you share it? I will try to make one this week or next.
I tried to upload it but it allows files of certain types. I'm happy to mail it to you if you PM me.
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2012-01-04
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Originally Posted by Estel
Maybe. The best is for the FCam guys talk to the Nokia guys to understand where in the pipeline they can get this addressed because N900 JPGs don't have the same vignette (corner) issues so clearly something in the JPG pipeline is fixing not other things like detail in shadow areas and etc.
OMG, fix for vignette effect. It was haunting me for ages. Thanks a lot, man!
I totally agree with dire need to have it installed on N900. ufRaw is already available via N900, so it's last thing remaining to have fully working RAW photolab on device.
Maybe in the N9? :-)
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2012-01-05
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algorithms used in RAW-to-jpg transformation in N900 also closed-source (say hello to our "Nokia friends"), and it's generally a no-go to get them.
As for publishing files here, a common trick is zipping a file(s) - it's allowed here, with file limit up to 488 KB. I've also used (with success) - while uploading things that are one file anyway - renaming them using .zip extension, and explicitly stating in post, that it's not .zip file, but renamed one, to avoid stupid file format limitation.
I'm preparing my own profiles, but I would love to compare results with ones belonging to You.
/Estel
As for publishing files here, a common trick is zipping a file(s) - it's allowed here, with file limit up to 488 KB. I've also used (with success) - while uploading things that are one file anyway - renaming them using .zip extension, and explicitly stating in post, that it's not .zip file, but renamed one, to avoid stupid file format limitation.
I'm preparing my own profiles, but I would love to compare results with ones belonging to You.
/Estel
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2012-01-06
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Originally Posted by geohsia
Thanks for the offer, and I'll share mine when I have created it. For some reason, I can't send PMs, even though my account is activated. Not sure what's up with that.
No problem.What I found that profiles made from FCam files are better than Camera-UI2 Raw files and they can be applied to both FCam and Camera-UI2 raw files so you can use the file with any RAW file from the N900.
I tried to upload it but it allows files of certain types. I'm happy to mail it to you if you PM me.
Any chance you could zip and post to this thread?
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2012-01-06
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Originally Posted by plaka666
There's a minimum number of posts required before you can send PMs (5 I think).
Thanks for the offer, and I'll share mine when I have created it. For some reason, I can't send PMs, even though my account is activated. Not sure what's up with that.
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2012-01-06
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Originally Posted by plaka666
Alright. I've zipped it. Let me know if it worked.
Thanks for the offer, and I'll share mine when I have created it. For some reason, I can't send PMs, even though my account is activated. Not sure what's up with that.
As for closed source Nokia bits. I have no problems with Nokia not opening it but I'm hoping they learn from the N900 and allow an interface where someone can basically pull a modified raw and skip the JPG processing. I know this is dreaming.... But in terms of non-destructive editing and etc I think it would be great.
I am still holding out hope something can be done for the N9... Only time will tell.
Let me know how the profiles work out for you.
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2012-01-06
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Thanks, your profile works great! I was able to develop RAW using ufRAW without this damn vignette.
One thing bothers me, yet. Upon loading photo to CornerFix - before even loading filter - in left part of window, it was shown with both correct white balance, and without vignette! Yet, loading it into any RAw developer (be it ufRAW, or adobe one), camera white balance is *not* available, and vignette is present. Of course, vignette can be deleted using Your profile in cornerfix, and white balance adjusted manually, but I wonder if it's somehow possible to 'get' those proper white balance, that we see in original image, upon loading it to corner fix? Or is it just some kind of thumbnail, created during JPG processing on N900, and saved into RAW .dng?
In some aspects, such file has better white balance, that I was able to get using ufRAW. nothing very important, but I really wonder if our .dng's have some data inside, that isn't properly used by RAW developers, or is it just useless thumbnail.
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If I open .dng in CornerFix without choosing profile, and save it as new one (without any operation), new file - upon opening - *doesn't* show as correct white balance one. So, either such additional data are dropped during save process in CornerFix (be it some exif magic, or just useless thumbnail), or I don't get something.
/Estel
One thing bothers me, yet. Upon loading photo to CornerFix - before even loading filter - in left part of window, it was shown with both correct white balance, and without vignette! Yet, loading it into any RAw developer (be it ufRAW, or adobe one), camera white balance is *not* available, and vignette is present. Of course, vignette can be deleted using Your profile in cornerfix, and white balance adjusted manually, but I wonder if it's somehow possible to 'get' those proper white balance, that we see in original image, upon loading it to corner fix? Or is it just some kind of thumbnail, created during JPG processing on N900, and saved into RAW .dng?
In some aspects, such file has better white balance, that I was able to get using ufRAW. nothing very important, but I really wonder if our .dng's have some data inside, that isn't properly used by RAW developers, or is it just useless thumbnail.
// Edit
If I open .dng in CornerFix without choosing profile, and save it as new one (without any operation), new file - upon opening - *doesn't* show as correct white balance one. So, either such additional data are dropped during save process in CornerFix (be it some exif magic, or just useless thumbnail), or I don't get something.
/Estel
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2012-01-07
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Originally Posted by Estel
I'm not sure, probably as you said the thumbnail. Unless we can tap into the Nokia secret sauce I think this is the best we can do for now.
One thing bothers me, yet. Upon loading photo to CornerFix - before even loading filter - in left part of window, it was shown with both correct white balance, and without vignette! Yet, loading it into any RAw developer (be it ufRAW, or adobe one), camera white balance is *not* available, and vignette is present. Of course, vignette can be deleted using Your profile in cornerfix, and white balance adjusted manually, but I wonder if it's somehow possible to 'get' those proper white balance, that we see in original image, upon loading it to corner fix? Or is it just some kind of thumbnail, created during JPG processing on N900, and saved into RAW .dng?
In some aspects, such file has better white balance, that I was able to get using ufRAW. nothing very important, but I really wonder if our .dng's have some data inside, that isn't properly used by RAW developers, or is it just useless thumbnail.
What I'm convinced of is that what we have really isn't RAW. By that I mean something is goofy because when you take photos of a properly lit scene let's say a tree in the shadow, the shadow cutoff is so much more extreme on RAW. No matter how you kick up exposure, Brightrness and it is hard to recover data from the shadows.
If you look at the JPG you see detail there and it looks fine. Significantly more data. So what does that mean? As far as i'm concerned RAW on the N900 is really not that much better than JPG and in most cases JPG will give you a better file.
As for why your guess is as good as mine.
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If I open .dng in CornerFix without choosing profile, and save it as new one (without any operation), new file - upon opening - *doesn't* show as correct white balance one. So, either such additional data are dropped during save process in CornerFix (be it some exif magic, or just useless thumbnail), or I don't get something.
/Estel
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