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Suppose if you have an battery charged to 3.7 V and this battery have Rint = 1 ohm. trying
to charge with 500 mA will fail because voltage drop on internal resistance will be 0.5V and
across batt conections will be 4.2 V and charger will say "enough"
The script is not finished! I can't find any info about r_sense resistor influence for
bq27200 voltage readings.
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bme programs the charger to stop when the current has been reduced to 50mA. This never happens after PR1.3, as the USB subsystem consumes 60-80mA itself and is active whenever a charger is connected.
I propose check internal battery resistance.
Some theory:
Suppose if you have an battery charged to 3.7 V and this battery have Rint = 1 ohm. trying
to charge with 500 mA will fail because voltage drop on internal resistance will be 0.5V and
across batt conections will be 4.2 V and charger will say "enough"
when a such battery power a device and that device sink 500 mA the voltage at battery
conectors will drop 0.5V and the device will shut down. Large resistance is a bad thing
Worse, trying to charge with elevated current let say 1.2A the internal resistance will
decrease max final voltage . For ex. 200 mOhm will limit final voltage to 4.2V - 1.2A x
0.2Ohm = 3.96 V ! quite discharged battery !!
Internal resistance makes its presence felt even when battery discharge. 100 mA load, 200
mOhm resistance -> add 20 mV to cutt of voltage thus will limit swing value of battery
voltage from charged to discharged. from teoretical 1V ( 4.2 down to 3.2 ) to 4.18 - 3.22 =
0.96
For obvious reasons limiting charge current to 100 mA when battery voltage is above a limit,
is a must.
n900 final charge current is ~100 mA.
so
200 mOhm ~~ 4% wear @ 100 mA, 20 % @ 500 mA load current
500 mOhm ~~ 10 % @ 100 mA, 50% @ 500 mA
A battery with increased internal resistance can drive a wall clock but not an N900
From similar n900 battery datasheet @1300mAh the resistance of a new battery is @ 50 mOhm.
bq27200 sense resistor add 20 mOhm to this value and copper traces and few mOhm also.
Until now I have no idea about resistance of battery protection circuit
N900 consumption vary from 5mA to 300>>500 mA on heavy jobs , hostmode, high brightness,
....
Estimating wear is not a guess but not precise as we want.
Anyway, i make a script for measuring batt Rint. ( guest star bq27200 )
Attach a charger and run ( as root ) the attached code
The script is not finished! I can't find any info about r_sense resistor influence for
bq27200 voltage readings.
Automatic speed Hostmode
Last edited by blue_led; 2012-01-09 at 23:00.