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RX-51 is offline RX-51
2012-01-21 , 21:26
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Hello,

I got me a n900 to toy around and get used to maemo.
Would like to start out with flashing the device. I'd like to know whether you'd suggest a linux/maemo newb to start out with CSSU (stable or test?) or rather go with the last nokia vanilla version? Found everything I'll need to know here I guess:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware

I'd like to use swipe and zoom gestures that seem not to be present by default.

As maemo.nokia.com redirects to http://swipe.nokia.com/ and http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/ is also n9 exclusive - ovi store seems to be the easiest way to get programs for starters?!

Thanks!
 
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2012-01-21 , 21:35
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forget ovi store, check use the extras repos, and id say use CSSU stable.
 

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2012-01-21 , 21:41
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r View Post
forget ovi store, check use the extras repos, and id say use CSSU stable.
with extras repos you're refering to http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ ?

could you please point out shortly what makes CSSU better?
Last edited by RX-51; 2012-01-21 at 22:05.
 
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2012-01-21 , 21:53
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We have already many threads about CSSU, including one brand new. Don't need to repeat same arguments over and over, just use search, please.

BTW, IMO he suggested, that CSSU is *better*, not *inferior*.

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2012-01-21 , 21:59
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Originally Posted by RX-51 View Post
I got me a n900 to toy around and get used to maemo.
Would like to start out with flashing the device. I'd like to know whether you'd suggest a linux/maemo newb to start out with CSSU (stable or test?) or rather go with the last nokia vanilla version?
In my personal opinion, if you're completely new to Linux, I would stick with vanilla Maemo just to start with. The CSSU fixes some bugs, but also introduces a variety of new features (some of which are not well documented), and that demands a bit of extra learning on your part. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using vanilla Maemo, I still do myself.

I'd like to use swipe and zoom gestures that seem not to be present by default.
The web browser, Microb, has the right-swipe-for-pointer, left-swipe-for-history, and swirl-to-zoom gesures in it. But most other applications don't use those gestures.

As maemo.nokia.com redirects to http://swipe.nokia.com/ and http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/ is also n9 exclusive - ovi store seems to be the easiest way to get programs for starters?
Nokia has more-or-less dropped support for Maemo at this point, so probably the best place to find software right now is the Extras repository. This repository should already be enabled in your application manager, no matter which version of Maemo you choose; so just open it and browse the selection there to find new apps.
 

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2012-01-21 , 22:04
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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
We have already many threads about CSSU, including one brand new. Don't need to repeat same arguments over and over, just use search, please.

BTW, IMO he suggested, that CSSU is *better*, not *inferior*.

/Estel
Thanks for your answer Estel, not sure why I wrote "inferior" as I understood it as "better" - fixed it.

I will look up the CSSU threads.
 

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2012-01-21 , 22:19
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Originally Posted by RX-51 View Post
Hello,

I got me a n900 to toy around and get used to maemo.
Would like to start out with flashing the device. I'd like to know whether you'd suggest a linux/maemo newb to start out with CSSU (stable or test?) or rather go with the last nokia vanilla version? Found everything I'll need to know here I guess:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware

I'd like to use swipe and zoom gestures that seem not to be present by default.

As maemo.nokia.com redirects to http://swipe.nokia.com/ and http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/ is also n9 exclusive - ovi store seems to be the easiest way to get programs for starters?!

Thanks!
i would suggest you start with the vanilla Maemo until you feel comfortable with X-Terminal (apt-get, aptitude, dpkg and all that sort of rubbish)
(tip: install mc (midnight commander) if you want to dive into X-terminal (which you should probably do BEFORE tackling CSSU))
personally i have two N900, one which i use as my mobile phone (/ pocket computer) and the other as a testbed for, well, lately i was testing the most recent version of Kernel Power, battery patch, speed patch and the like... so, i though after reading "that other thread were everything is explained..." (that about summarizes the discussion over there ) that i would throw CSSU into the lot; the device was working without problem PRIOR to CSSU; after installing CSSU, the only thing that i could do was... reflashing
thus, my advice (after over 1 1/2 yr of N900 and over 15 yrs of Linux / GNU) stick to vanilla for now

btw, welcome to the N900 community and lot of fun with your device

EDIT: in all fairness, even while re-flashing it, i thought that i should give CSSU... a fair chance on a "clean" device, that is without all the other things; especially FCAM, considering that CSSU also updates the camera feature....
have to look into that

then again, if i have to choose between CSSU and FCAM, i guess i'll go for FCAM
@ least it has (described) features, whereas CSSU...
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2012-01-21 , 22:40
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Originally Posted by misterc View Post
i would suggest you start with the vanilla Maemo until you feel comfortable with X-Terminal (apt-get, aptitude, dpkg and all that sort of rubbish)
(tip: install mc (midnight commander) if you want to dive into X-terminal (which you should probably do BEFORE tackling CSSU))
personally i have two N900, one which i use as my mobile phone (/ pocket computer) and the other as a testbed for, well, lately i was testing the most recent version of Kernel Power, battery patch, speed patch and the like... so, i though after reading "that other thread were everything is explained..." (that about summarizes the discussion over there ) that i would throw CSSU into the lot; the device was working without problem PRIOR to CSSU; after installing CSSU, the only thing that i could do was... reflashing
thus, my advice (after over 1 1/2 yr of N900 and over 15 yrs of Linux / GNU) stick to vanilla for now

btw, welcome to the N900 community and lot of fun with your device
First of all, thanks for your nice welcome
Yes, what you suggest sounds like the way to go for now.

When browsing http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php I was wondering if I have to install RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin and then add RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin ?
 
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2012-01-21 , 22:43
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Originally Posted by misterc View Post
i would suggest you start with the vanilla Maemo until you feel comfortable with X-Terminal (apt-get, aptitude, dpkg and all that sort of rubbish)
(tip: install mc (midnight commander) if you want to dive into X-terminal (which you should probably do BEFORE tackling CSSU))
personally i have two N900, one which i use as my mobile phone (/ pocket computer) and the other as a testbed for, well, lately i was testing the most recent version of Kernel Power, battery patch, speed patch and the like... so, i though after reading "that other thread were everything is explained..." (that about summarizes the discussion over there ) that i would throw CSSU into the lot; the device was working without problem PRIOR to CSSU; after installing CSSU, the only thing that i could do was... reflashing
thus, my advice (after over 1 1/2 yr of N900 and over 15 yrs of Linux / GNU) stick to vanilla for now

btw, welcome to the N900 community and lot of fun with your device
First of all, thanks for your nice welcome, good to see some humor around here
Yes, what you suggest sounds like the way to go for now.

When browsing http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php I was wondering if I have to install RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin and then add RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin ?
 
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2012-01-21 , 22:48
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before you do anything you should install backup menu and make a full backup of opt and root

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975

once you have this installed you can easily restore your system to the condition it was in when making the backup without flashing

also use the power search on the right under the 2 banner ads the forum search sucks
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