Hedgecore, is what you're saying is true, consumers have to wait 2 more generations for Nokia to have introduced a mature Internet Tablet?! Nokia's in it for the Money, they had better change their business plan fast because Asian companies like HTC, Samsung have "All-in-ones". This is a consumer driven business, people want things to work "out of the box", the ordinary consumer want things as simple as possible. Not all are techno-geeks like us, well I consider myself one anyways!!

i have the n810. I really need a calendar and to do list. I installed the gpesummary suite from maemo.org but it crashes. I looked through this post but it does't work for me. Any suggestions and how tos for the n810?

Garnet VM sucks, and it's a kludge at best. I finally just uninstalled it, because it's so useless. IMO, the reason Nokia left out PIMs and calendar is that they expect you to have a Nokia smartphone, or at least a phone, which has those, and if you don't, you should buy one from them. More sales, more profit. I'm not going to buy a phone from Nokia under any circumstances now, but I think that's their reasoning, faulty as it may be. I also tried the GPE suite, and deleted it. It's also useless. I'm reduced to keeping my contacts and calendar on my EeePC in JPilot. If I could get JPilot to run on the N800 I would be very happy, and look no further. Barring that, I'm still carrying my Palm T3. I don't want to do that, but I have no other choice, and the N800 isn't getting nearly as much use as it could, and should.

I learned there are two simple ways to install additional software

1. Installing a program from http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008
2. Adding a repository, e.g. from http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.ph...&system=maemo4 and install stuff via the program manager

Both can done by clicking on a link (green arrow) to an "install file" from the tablet. The latter is preferable. Am I right so far?

Does anyone know which repository contains PIM? I have the n810.

Do a Find on the Gronmayer page for "GPE" and you'll be there.

GPE will sync to jpilot or kpilot on this box via USB?!? COOL, just *exactly* what I need to start taking the n800 out of the drawer and taking it with me rather than the Z31!

Thank you!

And yes, garnet is a problem here too, I just haven't installed it yet. Crashed a couple times and will apparently only sync to wincrap (net sync only).

Lack of a useful PIM on this thing, while not a deal breaker, is rather disappointing. All my experience with Nokia up to this point has been VERY positive :-/.

Nokia wants you to buy a Nokia smartphone as a companion to the N8xxx I think. Certainly both Ari and others in management have argued that 'there's PIM on the smartphone so you don't need it on the tablet' -- which is of course rubbish almost whichever way you turn it. We're also lots of folks here on ITT who think that the ideal companion to the N8xx isn't a large expensive smartphone, but a small cheap network-enabled non-smartphone.

Anyway, I'm totally in line with those of you arguing that 1) we need _proper_ PIM apps (at least calendar and contacts), and 2) GPE is nowhere near e.g. Palm functionality.

(I'm still looking at the genecash calendar app -- at least it seems to have all possible incarnations of scheduling options. It's Python so shouldn't take long to get into OS2008 either.)

i know this is completely off topic , but i cant find any other way to post it , i changed the format of the page to mobile on my desktop running firefox , how do i get back to the normal view... i dont see anything for me to click on to change back???

Agree 1000%!

When I had os2007 on my n800, I tried the calendar app and Info on Tap (which also looks very promising and could fill a huge gap). The calendar worked but seemed to have a few bugs. I couldn't get Info on Tap to save at all so I concluded that these were extremely promising, but not ready for prime-time yet (unfortunately).