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Originally Posted by misterc
Why are you asking me questions about Nokia when it's a self-serving, somehow voted in puerile individual that's causing this thread to begin with.
again...
don't you think NOKIA has proven they can see beyond Maemo.org & TMO?
so, why would they stop supporting Maemo after yet another Tempest in a teapot.... eeeh, thread, of course, on TMO?
Without him in place, or part of this forum, I'd not have had this discussion nor had to take any time out of my schedule to discuss anything such a person would have done.
Simply stated, you want those answers, I don't have them. I have answered to the best of my knowledge of what you've asked; I do not see the reasoning.
Perhaps it's time you answer some questions since it's starting to feel like a journey down a rabbit hole I'd rather not travel. Nokia has been beneficial to this site. It's the current Council I hold at fault.
TMO is going down because Maemo is dead. Why? Ask Nokia. MeeGo is dead? Why? Ask Intel and Nokia. You're asking me questions that you need to be asking Elop.
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by freemangordon
You might not be one, but you're in the company of unsavory people/person. You have a problem with that, solve the bigger issue - at least one of you has lost the trust people in this community. That's the consequence for those types of actions.
You are saying I am lair or what?
Earn the trust back or complain about it ad nauseum or ignore it. It's not a problem if you have a clear conscience.
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by don.edri
Quoted as this seems to be the most sensible post in this whole thread - why hasn't anybody listened, acknowledged or thanked?
Hey, people, how about we use all this energy and turn it into something good instead of adding volume to this thread?
As I can see it, it makes no sense to review the results of the CA. The lesson for the future is clear - alter the way the council members are awarded devices. That simple.
So, as there are voices some other deserving developers were omitted in the prizes - how about the community makes up for this? I mean, how much is a N9 nowadays? If the community thinks that those developers are so deserving (and requiring for their further work!) we could easily donate a few bucks each and fix the issue. Yeah, those are not N950, but one can perfectly code and develop with them, right?
Would that please everybody? This thread is on a straight way to a brawl, with some hurtful and inappropriate things said already - so why not to turn this effort it into something beneficial instead?
Maybe because many are too far gone with their own standpoint and cannot / will not give up chomping at the bit...???
Sorry guys but this has now gotten to the point of being both pathetic and embarrassing. I imagine after all this in-fighting (b*itching) nothing will be changed except the attitudes and stand-offs between fellow members. Nice result.
I, for one, am off. To read other (informative) posts and continue playing with my toy.
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by Dave999
why not?
The ultimate question to the ultimate answer is... Why?
Why are we all here?
have anywhere else we can get a more or less fully fledged Linux / GNU in our pocket?
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by gerbick
i certainly wouldn't waste my time on Flop.
Why are you asking me questions about Nokia when it's a self-serving, somehow voted in puerile individual that's causing this thread to begin with.
Without him in place, or part of this forum, I'd not have had this discussion nor had to take any time out of my schedule to discuss anything such a person would have done.
Simply stated, you want those answers, I don't have them. I have answered to the best of my knowledge of what you've asked; I do not see the reasoning.
Perhaps it's time you answer some questions since it's starting to feel like a journey down a rabbit hole I'd rather not travel. Nokia has been beneficial to this site. It's the current Council I hold at fault.
TMO is going down because Maemo is dead. Why? Ask Nokia. MeeGo is dead? Why? Ask Intel and Nokia. You're asking me questions that you need to be asking Elop.
this being said, maybe you can answer a last question? did you read somewhere an official statement NOKIA will stop financing Maemo?
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by misterc
But that wouldn't be very transparent, now would it. Everyone else is calling for more transparency, and you call for opacity? I'm not saying that what you said is false, or that either is the right or wrong way to go. I'm just noting that even in this community there are people wanting things both (multiple) ways.
when a crisis arises, the right thing is probably better discussed and agreed upon behind closed doors and only then one member makes one unequivocal post
Originally Posted by don_falcone
Which device would that be? The one that was donated in the CC? It wasn't donated back into the CA, but into the CC. Even if we were to go against the winners wishes and re-allocate it, I'm pretty sure everyone would be unhappy with whomever it went to. Either because it didn't go to their person, or because we're "stealing" a device from the CC, or...
May i suggest to the council thinking about having:
1) a vote on re-allocating that one particular device
Originally Posted by freemangordon
Actually, they happen on #maemo-meeting on a regular basis (but you know that...) Yet even with all these "concerned" people on TMO, many of whom are on IRC, not one of them showed up last Friday. Not even the ones having a chat with others in the next channel over on this very topic while the meeting was going on, even to observe.
@ZogG: I don't expect council meetings to happen on #maemo, do you?
But then, who wants to spend time in a boring Council meeting?
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2012-06-26
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Originally Posted by vetsin
OT: misterc, i hope you realize you're feeding a self-proclaimed troll.
It's a thin line talking facts, rumors, lies and trolling. Most people assuming they have correct facts but are infact wrong, others are wrong when they think they are right.
Same goes for rumors, lies and trolling. Be careful when handing out statements like that, especially in a thread like this.
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2012-06-26
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#119
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Stop it, Davie. There's almost no existing thread where you were positively contributing.
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Originally Posted by woody14619
I'm sorry for the ambiguity, i meant the one that Estel was allocated of. (if the accusation prove to be true which seems it is)
Which device would that be? The one that was donated in the CC? It wasn't donated back into the CA, but into the CC. Even if we were to go against the winners wishes and re-allocate it, I'm pretty sure everyone would be unhappy with whomever it went to. Either because it didn't go to their person, or because we're "stealing" a device from the CC, or...
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