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#1081
Originally Posted by jflatt View Post
Is that the color you turn when you get stabbed with a fireplace poker?
Maybe... >.>

Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
That new CEO isn't fun at all on twitter. I want that Marc Dillon back already.<SNIP>
How so? And if that's your main rationale for immediately changing back, then I'm glad you're not calling the shots for Jolla

Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Seriously? If you can't run the latest it's really not needed at all. I had no clue that BB only ran old stuff. How old?
Dave there's a world outside these epic threads, this has been common knowledge for a very long time, it's Android 2.3.
Although there's been rumours for quite some time that they'll have a player for Android 4.x this year or early next, nothing in upcoming builds though.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
That new CEO isn't fun at all on twitter. I want that Marc Dillon back already. Can't wait for the next CEO change.
I found him to be quite good
 
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#1083
I've seen most part of this world both from the earth and from above but nothing about old android. However, nothing is better than these jolla threads becouse now I know about it.

I don't said the new CEO is bad, it's just that I don't find him particular fun.

Carry on, I have some work to do.

EDIT: that part of old android must have passed under my radar. Not sure where this was discussed?
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#1084
I've been digging into the Android compatibility angle to see how it may impact Sailfish OS and BB.

Some relatively recent numbers show that 83.5% of Android devices do NOT run the latest/greatest version of Android (Jellybean), which means Jellybean only has a 16.5% share of all Android devices. Ice Cream Sandwich is running on 28.6% of Android devices.

I think BlackBerry selected Gingerbread because it runs on 44.1% of Android devices and is still by far the most common version of Android operating today.

The practical result of this is that key features of major applications are, in fact, available at the Gingerbread level, because this is the predominant Android version and developers don't want to abandon such a large group of users. The bad news is that the most recent software versions and features, as well as performance optimizations, etc. can be missing on older version apps. Also, new software can be introduced that has no Gingerbread version at all.

So having Gingerbread level compatibility gives you a lot of core functionality (Instagram, Netflix, many many others) and that's unlikely to change, given the number of Android devices stuck on this version.

But my real question is whether Sailfish OS and BB 10 can set up a Nexus-like compatibility that can be updated with minimal delay following Google's official updates? How feasible is this? Is Google an ally, neutral, or an enemy when it comes to this sort of compatibility?

Btw, here are the numbers on Android:
http://visual.ly/android-fragmentati...35-outdated-os
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Maybe folks from Myriad will be forthcoming in clearing much of that up*, OHA is a major partner & they're apparently a founding member:
http://www.myriadgroup.com/about/industry-partners.aspx

I was just refreshing my memory on what Alien Dalvik's all about & offers etc:
http://www.myriadgroup.com/device-so...-software.aspx

What I found odd, is that there's no reference on that site anywhere about their relationship with Jolla/Sailfish.
Not in Partners, Customers, or even in their 2012 & 2013 News sections, I guess it doesn't necessarily mean much.

*doubtful though

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#1086
This concept posted on Jolla Pioneer Fans page looks quite cool

 
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#1087
If that's all screen (including the jolla word), it looks pretty good.
 
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No disc phone?
 
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Originally Posted by Hacker View Post
The bad news is that the most recent software versions and features, as well as performance optimizations, etc. can be missing on older version apps. Also, new software can be introduced that has no Gingerbread version at all
this is key point. Many on the BB forums are complaining about functionality in even core OS apps, (RIM's/Blackberry's inhouse FB and Twitter applications as an example) let alone android builds.

The other point of consideration is the means of installation.
whilst sideloading applications isn't particularly difficult, for the average consumer, even this is too technical to be a viable justification for not having native application builds.

g00gle aren't particularly enamoured of others piggybacking on their playstore or the developer framework (both devs and g00gle loose money from this process, without a clear path for non g00gle devices to access the store) and thus android applications would require a suitable repo and access capability.

@ jalyst, I for one don;t have any faith in or support for the OHA. They very much do their own thing and only if it suits the big players in that group. IMO it's just a nother bunch of punters who have ridden on the back of the word "Open" in the broader OSS community when in fact, there's very little that's actually open about their work, their governance or the way in which they make decisions.
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Originally Posted by Hacker View Post
Some relatively recent numbers show that 83.5% of Android devices do NOT run the latest/greatest version of Android (Jellybean), which means Jellybean only has a 16.5% share of all Android devices. Ice Cream Sandwich is running on 28.6% of Android devices.
Those numbers change rapidly, your stats are already outdated. ICS+JB are way over 50% together already, GB down to 38%.

Source: http://developer.android.com/about/d...rds/index.html
 
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