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2013-08-12 , 09:23
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There are open source application that are excellent too.
 
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2013-08-12 , 12:16
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There are open source application that are excellent too.
Sure. What I meant is that if there's a good, closed-source, alternative to a crappy, open-source, program, I'll take the former, unless I can fix the latter myself.
 

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2013-08-12 , 12:29
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Sure. What I meant is that if there's a good, closed-source, alternative to a crappy, open-source, program, I'll take the former, unless I can fix the latter myself.
So you take iOS over Sailfish?
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2013-08-12 , 18:45
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So you take iOS over Sailfish?
Lol. Hell no. I wouldn't touch iOS with a stick. Not because it's not open, but because it's not good (in *my* book).

As for Sailfish, I can't say for now. Will have to see it.

I guess I could now go and delete my comment. It was meant very very generally, i.e. without a particular program/OS in mind.
 

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2013-10-13 , 09:59
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Jolla only has 80 employees who are doing their best to deliver a great phone+UI. Maybe they simply don't have the resources to market like or the compwtiotion, we are the fanboys we need to do it! Also if they are going to make te people wild 6 months before launch like Nokia always did they make the same mistake. Let them make advertisement a month before launch, December! Its a good month, people are spendig then so it wouldnt be a bad time to advertise and release!
 
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2013-11-27 , 18:58
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So, can we start enumerating closed components now? It's good to make some table of what's closed and what's Android based and requires libhybris.
 

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2013-11-28 , 15:34
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yes it has closed components. Not that it matters. Every distro has some closed parts.
Every phone, maybe,

Every distro, no. Debian exists.
 

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2013-11-28 , 17:09
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Whether a UI is excellent or not is irrelevant. Openness is important.
edit: I realize drivers and what not will be closed but a platform should be open enough to port it to other hardware. The user interface is a pretty important component and should be open.

Jolla have stated over and over again that they have no problem with people porting it to other devices. They just won't allow other companies to port it to devices they plan to sell without paying. Myriad's Dalvik alone needs to be paid for in some way.

Android is not any better or more 'Open' in this regard. Every Android manufacturer pays Google to ship devices with their official closed source apps on it. The AOSP maintainer famously quit his job recently because of the closed nature of Google's flagship Nexus devices.
 

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2013-11-28 , 17:39
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
So, can we start enumerating closed components now? It's good to make some table of what's closed and what's Android based and requires libhybris.
If someone can post a package list, I'm happy to run through it and update with what I know.

I don't have a device with retail software to hand, so I'm not able to do that part.
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2013-11-28 , 17:52
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already posted http://people.debian.org/~timo/Jolla/jolla_packages.txt
source : http://losca.blogspot.com/2013/11/jo...party.html?m=1
 

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