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2014-03-13 , 12:45
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Originally Posted by bingomion View Post
What would Richard 'not linux, GNU' Stallman say?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...an_on_android/
How about, what does Linus think?
 

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2014-03-13 , 19:11
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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
How about, what does Linus think?
What does OP think?

No

I too believe Android isn't Linux
But following my criteria:
  • Swype Keyboard - this is the only non-negotiable item
  • removable battery
  • (micro) SD
  • Linux
it appears that an Android phone most closely suits my needs, followed by two phones that either aren't available in Australia (Jolla) or aren't released yet (Neo900) - neither of which are suitable, as they both don't have Sywpe keyboard.
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2014-03-18 , 22:04
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Originally Posted by rfa View Post
it appears that an Android phone most closely suits my needs, followed by two phones that either aren't available in Australia (Jolla) or aren't released yet (Neo900) - neither of which are suitable, as they both don't have Sywpe keyboard.

What about blackberry?
It's more linux then android!
 
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2014-03-18 , 22:17
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Originally Posted by bingomion View Post
What about blackberry?
It's more linux then android!
It is based on the QNX microkernel (yes a general purpose mobile microkernel OS!) so it does not have the Linux kernel. Also has a custom set of utilities.

tldr; it is not Linux and not even GNU
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2014-03-18 , 22:20
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#15
i would suggest a xperia ultra. The best buy/dollar right now.(if you like big screens)

if you want something fun that not always work. Get a jolla but you dont get quility/dollar.

both are very strange devices and also very cool!
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2014-03-19 , 01:08
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
i would suggest a xperia ultra. The best buy/dollar right now.(if you like big screens)

if you want something fun that not always work. Get a jolla but you dont get quility/dollar.

both are very strange devices and also very cool!
Screen size? N9's is good, but haven't tried bigger. I'll try & "test drive"an experia, thanks for the suggestion.

If Jolla's had Swype keyboard I'd import one in a heartbeat, it's costing them sales, not just mine...

Crikey, if W8 phones had Swype I'd look very closely at a 1020...

But really, I want a Jolla with Swype.
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2014-03-19 , 08:56
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Your option seems to be:

-Nexus 5 (All options, except microSD/removable battery. You might be able to run native ubuntu or chroot it, or port Mer if you like)

-SGS4 (Not as good as the Nexus 5. Has all options you need. Slight chance of Chroot/Native/Mer.)

...otherwise the options seem to be:
- Another N9 (Pretty much an obsolete choice now)
- N900 (Somewhat of a compromised downgrade)
- SailOS (The only* linux device out there, but much of a let-down)

I wouldn't consider BBX, FirefoxOS, UbuntuPhone and Tizen as choices.
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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
I think there has to be some clarity about what is meant by linux here. Some folks do not consider Android to be linux while others think that if the software uses a linux kernal (like Android) it is then a linux distribution like Debian and Ubuntu. See

http://www.itworld.com/open-source/3...x-distribution

What do you think?
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq...xsyswithoutgnu

Originally Posted by mscion View Post
How about, what does Linus think?
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#claimlinux
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linusagreed
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2014-03-19 , 13:27
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Here's a slightly different distinction...

http://www.linux.org/threads/the-lin...-android.5459/
 
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Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
It is based on the QNX microkernel (yes a general purpose mobile microkernel OS!) so it does not have the Linux kernel. Also has a custom set of utilities.

tldr; it is not Linux and not even GNU
But it is a *nix compilant system, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX
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