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2014-03-11 , 11:24
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#11
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r View Post
I get it needs to be built on top of Mer, but whatever happened to Sailfish being independent? Or is Sailfish just an example of what Mer can do and Jolla are pushing behind Mer, either way am happy.
Mer is targeted at vendors to build systems with it. Nemo can be seen as a reference system built with Mer.
Jolla is a vendor that builds Sailfish with Mer.
Jolla also happens to be the biggest contributor to Mer, so essentially all open development of Sailfish OS goes into Mer and Nemo.
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2014-03-11 , 23:42
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Originally Posted by djselbeck View Post
As I've understand it stskeeps gives KonstaT the tarball and he tags it on top of git
Originally Posted by Konsta View Post
Yes, that's correct.
Great, good to know. But there should be some cumulative repo or at least an overview for all those bits and bolts. For example it can be linked from https://sailfishos.org...

So far the whole thing looks very chaotic and disorganized. How could anyone find it without knowing where to look?
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2014-03-12 , 07:49
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
Great, good to know. But there should be some cumulative repo or at least an overview for all those bits and bolts. For example it can be linked from https://sailfishos.org...

So far the whole thing looks very chaotic and disorganized. How could anyone find it without knowing where to look?
Well, you can still go the official route and send source code request to the address in about device settings. I'm sure they'll post you the disk eventually. There's probably other copyleft licensed bits besides the kernel and that is the best way for Jolla to meet all their legal requirements. As far as I've understood there was some hopes/plans for Jolla company repo but setting up the infrastructure wasn't prioritized due to company resources.

I'm a huge fan of how kernel source was released on my current Moto G. That's something every company could learn from.
https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm

I'm not sure if the "chaotic and disorganized" was aimed at my git practices. :P You can go to the releases page and download a tarball for any tagged release. Basically that's not any different from what I've received.
 

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2014-03-12 , 20:33
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Originally Posted by Konsta View Post
I'm not sure if the "chaotic and disorganized" was aimed at my git practices. :P You can go to the releases page and download a tarball for any tagged release. Basically that's not any different from what I've received.
No, rather at Jolla's release of Sailfish being assembled from parts dispersed all around different unrelated repos. I.e. it makes sense to have some higher level overview of those components and source which kind of shows that they are part of one whole. Having that on sailfishos.org is one way, but if Jolla feels that it's specific to their release, they can have it on jolla.com somewhere.

For example, Debian has this: http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html
And kernel is here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux.html

Mer kind of has it for its own packages, but there is no such thing for Sailfish as a whole, that was my point.
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2014-03-13 , 00:57
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@Konsta @stskeep will we be getting the updated kernel source code anytime soon?
 

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2014-03-31 , 12:12
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Originally Posted by djselbeck View Post
@Konsta @stskeep will we be getting the updated kernel source code anytime soon?
I just pushed 1.0.4.20 kernel source to my github.

It also looks like someone requested and received the open source DVD from Jolla and uploaded the full content.
http://images.formeego.org/jolla/sources/
 

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2014-06-25 , 15:42
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Originally Posted by Konsta View Post
I just pushed 1.0.4.20 kernel source to my github.

It also looks like someone requested and received the open source DVD from Jolla and uploaded the full content.
http://images.formeego.org/jolla/sources/
Email on SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list :
Hi!

Here are the MD5 sums of the open source releases uploaded to http://images.formeego.org/jolla/sources/

711f4778c886ed2652d9f7b47902ff27 sailfish-1.0.0.5-oss.tar.bz2
de97a11fd0d0744f0d29aa9d2181d7d0 sailfish-1.0.1.10-oss.tar.bz2
cef9bfe7cfebad8b4005ad4184ccfb0c sailfish-1.0.2.5-oss.tar.bz2
098212b9694bd8ba23d75fa9d09b0326 sailfish-1.0.3.8-oss.tar.bz2
49b81e5c4f487f5063fdb4d435c2021a sailfish-1.0.4.20-oss.tar.bz2

I replaced the previous ISO images with tarballs, the contents are exactly the same.

We'll upload more source releases as we have time to build them, stay tuned.
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Also v1.0.5.16 was uploaded.
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2014-06-25 , 16:31
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I really don't get that Nokia mentality with DVD code dumps. Why can't Jolla maintain a normal public repository for all its open code?? So far Sailfish looks like a crippled open source project which isn't really open source. Is it a conscious decision or simply lack of proper organization?
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#20
Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
I really don't get that Nokia mentality with DVD code dumps. Why can't Jolla maintain a normal public repository for all its open code?? So far Sailfish looks like a crippled open source project which isn't really open source. Is it a conscious decision or simply lack of proper organization?
Do you know why goverment and organization s using unuserfriendly procresses?
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