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2008-02-25 , 14:49
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Hi, sorry for my bad english!
I'm pretty new here, and I don't own a nokia tablet, also if I am really interested about these kind of device.
I own a sony clie th55 with palm OS and I am thinking about buying a n810. At the moment I use my th55 for some things: like pda (calendar, reminders and contacts), eBooks reader in a lot of formats, mp3, movies and overall writing everywhere. Sometimes I use browse on wifi, but just if I dont' have other possibilities, 'cause web navigation is not so good, and flash support really bad. Probably I'd like to stay permanent online on wifi here at work for, mails instant messaging and RSS feeds. If is it possible to have a good software for usenet newsgroup it would be wonderful!
it seems to me that a nokia tablet could replace my Th55 for everything and a nokia phone could replace the PIM applications that are not the best part of the series N tablet.
I'd prefer the N810, 'cause I write for the 95% of times just standing in the metro, so I'd like to write with the hardware keyboard instead to keep the tablet with one hand and the stylus with the other, like now with my pda.

Normally I use macintosh but I used a little linux in the past.

Do you think that the the price of the tablet worths the more possibilities that n8X0 would offer to me respect the TH55?

When should be out the successor of the N810?

Thanks in advance for your patience.
 
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2008-02-25 , 15:59
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You can use a fullscreen keyboard in N800, so you don't have to use the stylus too.
Overall N8x0 is good for everything you want, but the PIM (and you already know that .

So go for it.

EDIT: Two things are the main features of N810 which probably you should consider: the hardware keyboard and the transflexive screen. GPS is bad (yet) and one card slot less. So if you need space and can settle with the FS keyboard, get a N800, If you do a lot writing under the hot blazing sun - get a N810
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2008-02-25 , 15:59
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Hi anjin,

For Calendar, reminders and contacts (PIM), and synching with outlook/exchange functionality is very limited, although you can synch with Google Calendar using GPE. Also you can't edit office documents right now, although the ability to edit .doc files is coming soon with Abiword. If this is the main purpose then buying it might not be a good idea.

Reading Ebooks works great with the FBreader app, and Evince for pdf. Be sure to check if your ebook formats are supported. For mp3, movies and streaming there quite a few applications, though you generally need to convert movies to be playable smoothly.

Browsing and flash work quite well, as wel as RSS, IM and mail (if you install the 'Modest' program. The default email client is not so great.)

I have no idea about usenet software. I don't have experience with the hardware keyboard since I have a n800, not a n810. But for some things like clicking on links, or scrolling in some applications you still need the stylus.

You don't need to know much about linux to use this but for some things, like installing beta versions of software you need to use the commandline.

For the money the n810 offer quite a lot of value, especially if you install applications and follow tips on the forum and the wiki to get more functionality, like using a USB keyboard.

There is no official news about the successor. Since the previous versions were released roughly a year apart I guess it will take at least half a year.
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2008-02-25 , 16:20
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Originally Posted by Bundyo View Post
You can use a fullscreen keyboard in N800, so you don't have to use the stylus too.
Overall N8x0 is good for everything you want, but the PIM (and you already know that .

So go for it.

EDIT: Two things are the main features of N810 which probably you should consider: the hardware keyboard and the transflexive screen. GPS is bad (yet) and one card slot less. So if you need space and can settle with the FS keyboard, get a N800, If you do a lot writing under the hot blazing sun - get a N810
mmmhhh probably I explained not so good. I don't have problem with writing with stylus, I'm doing just that now ion my pda. The problem is that I write normally on the metro, not sitting but normally standing up on my feet. For this reason I'd prefer the hardware keyboard: probably it need two hand but if I have to hang a support when metro is stopping I don't have the both hands busy with device and stylus like now. my th55 is pretty usured now in the screen's area when I always wrote (palm OS have a special area to write) and I notice that bad area when I watch movies or photos. I imagine that with the harware keyboard I'd limit the use of tapping (writing I mean...)

for the memory slot:I am managing 1 Gb memory stick card; I think that in both cases (n800 or n810) it'll be a huge step ahead... or not?

GPS, It could be nice, I don't own a car (for my luck...) and it could be nice to orient myself in the town. It's not a priceless feature. I could live without, but if I have it, good.

The screen is a good thing! H55 has a good screen, the possibility to use it under the sun (n810) make it better at my eyes.

Thanks for your answer
 
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2008-02-25 , 16:36
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus View Post
Hi anjin,

For Calendar, reminders and contacts (PIM), and synching with outlook/exchange functionality is very limited, although you can synch with Google Calendar using GPE. Also you can't edit office documents right now, although the ability to edit .doc files is coming soon with Abiword. If this is the main purpose then buying it might not be a good idea.
I don't need outlook/exchange sync. I use macintohs so I'd need the sync with iCal and other OSx pim app's. I'm considering to move the PIM part to the mobile phone, using the tablet (or the my actual pda) just to write, music, reading and movies.

I don't need big text editor. I don't use Microsoft Office neither. I just need a txt editor, plain text. just it. Possibly fast to run and if it would have a research function it'd be perfect.

Reading Ebooks works great with the FBreader app. Be sure to check if your ebook formats are supported.
hmmm I have a lot of books in a lot of format. Just now I am using eReader, but, considering that I am reading old books I think I could find them in a lot of formtas without big problems.


For mp3, movies and streaming quite a number of applications, though you generally need to convert movies to be playable smoothly.
That's I already do for my clie, so I don't think it'd bother me more then now!

Browsing and flash work quite well, as wel as RSS, IM and mail (if you install the 'Modest' program. The default email client is not so great.)
great, I consider this the worst thing on my th55!

I have no idea about usenet software. I don't have experience with the hardware keyboard since I have a n800, not a n810. But for some things like clicking on links, or scrolling in some applications you still need the stylus.

You don't need to know much about linux to use this but for some things, like installing beta versions of software you need to use the commandline.
Well... I use a lot the newsgroups. It'd be really nice if I could download messages at home and then reading them offline, just answer and send the posts when I have a connection...
Like I said in the other post it's not a problem to use the stylus, I am against that just for a long writing, also when I CANNNOT use a external keyboard.

I don't have too much problem with commandline, Sometimes I use it also on my apple machines: unix is a big family!

For the money the n810 offer quite a lot of value, especially if you install applications and follow tips on the forum and the wiki to get more functionality, like using a USB keyboard.

There is no official news about the successor. Since the previous versions were released roughly a year apart I guess it will take at least half a year.
hmmm it' seems that nokia stopped to sell the n800, on their webpage it's impossible to buy one, so at the moment the thing it'd be a N810 at 400 euros, without any memomry card...

Thank you for the answer!
 
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2008-02-25 , 17:08
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Originally Posted by anjin View Post
hmmm it' seems that nokia stopped to sell the n800, on their webpage it's impossible to buy one, so at the moment the thing it'd be a N810 at 400 euros, without any memomry card...

Thank you for the answer!
If I were you I would buy from the USA with the echange rate being to favourable. It would save you around 100 euros.
 
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2008-02-25 , 17:10
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus View Post
If I were you I would buy from the USA with the echange rate being to favourable. It would save you around 100 euros.
As long as you don't mind about the warranty (you will have to ship it back to the US)
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2008-02-25 , 17:14
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus View Post
If I were you I would buy from the USA with the echange rate being to favourable. It would save you around 100 euros.
it could be an idea, but I'd have to pay taxes if the customs stop it. Then I should pay the VAT (well the european verison of vat) around 16/20% and more a fine...
it sounds me not so good... then if something goes worng with it I have to ship it back to USA to fix? mhhhh
Why am not I damned rich? Just to stop worring myself about money... :P
 
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2008-02-25 , 17:19
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mmmhhh probably I explained not so good. I don't have problem with writing with stylus, I'm doing just that now ion my pda....
Writing on your PDA and writing on the N8x0 are TWO different things.

I am also a long time user of Palm and winCE and I was script writing on both, have yet 'to train myself' writing on the N8x0. I am using the software keyboard and 'poke' out the alphabet one at a time. The bottomline, either I am NOT trainable or the tablet is DIFFICULT to learn.


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2008-02-26 , 09:41
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Originally Posted by bunanson View Post
Writing on your PDA and writing on the N8x0 are TWO different things.

I am also a long time user of Palm and winCE and I was script writing on both, have yet 'to train myself' writing on the N8x0. I am using the software keyboard and 'poke' out the alphabet one at a time. The bottomline, either I am NOT trainable or the tablet is DIFFICULT to learn.


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Thank you for your intervention Bunanson, I didn't use wince so much, but I an old user of palmOS. I could say that I'm pretty fast writing on my clie. When you say you did training to write on nokia you mean that now you are fast like on palm with graffiti? And do you write a lot or just shor texts?

 
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