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2015-11-19
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#151
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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra
Yeah I think he said something like that there isn't anything interesting in mobile phones right now and all of them are just rectangles with black screens.
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2015-11-19
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#152
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Ok so the investment money is finished?
That does not necessarily mean that a hard core of Jolla employees can't continue to work on the OS on voluntary basis.
After all a lot of great software is made and improved on voluntary base.
It means they could still make an agreement with the investors to not render useless the work done and finish some doable stuff (like porting to Fairphone).
Thanks to their voluntary position Jolla employees could have more say in making the OS they want to see (instead of continue bootlicking a few potential BRIC contractors and waste time with random UI changes like 2.0 and frankly, the tablet adventure)
This while still having the advantage of maintaining access to a massive code base on which freshly worked and in which they know their way.
I am sure we are looking at a giant opportunity to see things being opened for Jolla OS to allow more rewarding community contributions than those "patches."
Together , people powered?
That does not necessarily mean that a hard core of Jolla employees can't continue to work on the OS on voluntary basis.
After all a lot of great software is made and improved on voluntary base.
It means they could still make an agreement with the investors to not render useless the work done and finish some doable stuff (like porting to Fairphone).
Thanks to their voluntary position Jolla employees could have more say in making the OS they want to see (instead of continue bootlicking a few potential BRIC contractors and waste time with random UI changes like 2.0 and frankly, the tablet adventure)
This while still having the advantage of maintaining access to a massive code base on which freshly worked and in which they know their way.
I am sure we are looking at a giant opportunity to see things being opened for Jolla OS to allow more rewarding community contributions than those "patches."
Together , people powered?
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2015-11-19
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#153
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Not sure if already posted. But following today's IRC #mer-meeting was quite interesting. There were questions concerning open-sourcing more parts of Sailfish OS and how this is also up to the investors. It's worth a read, even though there are no clear answers:
Summary: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...-19-14.30.html
Full log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...14.30.log.html
Summary: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...-19-14.30.html
Full log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...14.30.log.html
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2015-11-19
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#154
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Originally Posted by ste-phan
Sure, all voluntary work brought maemo5 back to life, everyone running it on myriad devices. Interesting noone brought this theory here:
Ok so the investment money is finished?
That does not necessarily mean that a hard core of Jolla employees can't continue to work on the OS on voluntary basis.
if investors did not yet sign in for that financing round, that means that there is some underlying conflict in the strategy!? Either investors ask for some turnaround or Jolla wants to do something new that investors do not want to pay for? That is not good because not only there is a conflict, not only this is an halt/slowing-down to the OS development but the image of Jolla is also damaged by that news. This is probably bad for the moral of the troop also. Anyway let's keep some hope ...
pat_o (9 hours ago)
pichlo: Sure it's easy to be the uncle who always disappears before supper's finished to then complain about precision of dish washing (srsly though, even in that metaphor you with your complaints complaining about other ppls view and not to jolla? they are your dishwashers, ppl here can have their own views, crazy dadjokes all around, julma sees the situation in his way, others in their, stop being the only true zogg, sure browser killed jolla, 4u)
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2015-11-19
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#155
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Originally Posted by romu
"I think that it's important we carefully shape the emergence of Ubuntu so that it goes to people who are going to love it and contribute to it and be part of the ecosystem. I think it would be a mistake for us to try to go too fast because if we put it in the hands of people who don't care about Ubuntu and don't want to be part of it, right now they would be disappointed, we would be disappointed and the whole thing would be a mess."
Some wrote about Ubuntu, but I don't have the feeling Ubuntu Touch is a big success.
--Mark Shuttleworth (Nov 2015)
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2015-11-19
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#156
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Oh, and Mer is aiming lower, where is financial backing for that? Right, with low enough aim you can bring product to life in decades, but not investors.
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2015-11-20
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#157
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Originally Posted by ste-phan
And who told you that we have not done that? There is unfortunately still a limit on how much you can do on a volunteer bases given real life responsibilities.
Ok so the investment money is finished?
That does not necessarily mean that a hard core of Jolla employees can't continue to work on the OS on voluntary basis.
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2015-11-20
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#158
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So I've ordered my second Jolla. I always thought, my next Jolla would be a Jolla 2, but I think it's better to have a spare Jolla, in case there will be no Jolla 2 and on the other side my purchase will help at least a very little bit in getting some money.
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2015-11-20
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#159
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Originally Posted by MSameer
Not saying at all that you did not already give your personal maximum.
And who told you that we have not done that? There is unfortunately still a limit on how much you can do on a volunteer bases given real life responsibilities.
But in the past phase that may have been not enough (looking at expensive management and some freelancers profiting from the 150% voluntary efforts of hard working fixed employees).
When those types leave the building there might be some room for more rewarding voluntary work as in more work but also more say.
I have been last man standing on the ship more than once. It is not financially rewarding and brings a lot of stress but sometimes it enables you to get things done your way.
Supporting ideals and "real life responsibilities" often don't mix but whoever wants Sailfish to be successful now needs to find those rare people for which it is possible and with them reach a compromise and keep the work going, this time in the right direction.
Make SFOS feature complete so it becomes worth purchasing a license for it to replace Android on select devices.
Alterantively If nobody can agree on where to to steer Sailfish boat to then call out to the Intexes for help and sell out.
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2015-11-20
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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch
Yeah, I've also ordered one yesterday + the aloe TOH. Primarily as a gesture of support but also for some future proofing, just in case.
So I've ordered my second Jolla. I always thought, my next Jolla would be a Jolla 2, but I think it's better to have a spare Jolla, in case there will be no Jolla 2 and on the other side my purchase will help at least a very little bit in getting some money.
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