Originally Posted by MartinK

Yes, that's exactly the issue - even though it might be perfectly legal to not ship anything to the campaign contributors, that still does not mean many of the ~10 000 contributors will not be angry and a lot of ill will won't be created.

You can see this quite often when big companies revert unpopular decisions - the stuff they tried to get away with is perfectly legal (they made sure of that) but that does not mean it won't make a lot of people (your customers) angry with a big potential backslash.

Also some people did preorder the tablets after the crowdfunding campaign ended, which is probably legally binding. I can actually see a scenario where the people who preordered might get their devices sooner (or at all :P) than the people who joined the crowdfunding campaign.


Yeah, sounds sensible. I would go for nr. 2 BTW.

Originally Posted by mosen

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Yes wrong forum to pick such an apple centristic definition of smartphone. Sorry to mislead you.

But hey, i am so unfair and measure in market success, which came from convenience and a redefinition of the market.

Quote me in 10 years if you like: we will have no smartphone alikes anymore.
The display/device unification we witnessed over the past 10 years was only founded in technical limitations, namely missing wireless standards to effortlessly share an output to any screen.
Screens will be Screens again in my "convenince wins Vision".
Displaying content will happen wireless to multiple dumb screens in all sizes to match the current workflow all around us.

All i ever asked for is one personal trustworthy device for interaction and storage.
I did not ask to attach a battery hungry but always to small display to it, i already have them. All around me in every room and soon my glasses will have a subtile low energy HD beamer directly to my iris!.

And where is the most convenient place to have that master device.
Your wrist or a even more subtile place i lack the imgination to find.
Sailfish gestures would have been killer to operate on a watch and use its small display as a kind of trackpad mainly to operate what is happening on bigger screens with content.

The one thing that makes everyone look like a complete ***** when trying the half baked versions of watches or glasses we have now, is the user having to concentrate on what he is doing and detaches himself from the outside world for that time.

What i hate most about phones is that i constantly let them fall, have to search them and need at least one hand to operate.

Makers of Dick Tracey got it right decades ago.
Everything since then is a puny milestone on the way.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dicktracy.jpg

Originally Posted by strongm

Jolla are apparently investigating: https://mobile.twitter.com/AnttiSaar...98215410995200

Originally Posted by youmeego

Hi, what a mess in Jolla. Should we wait for our Jolla tablet or get a refund at this stage?

Originally Posted by prometheus

Yeah right, I would probably way that they are investigating which luxury restaurant they will go after using our money...

Every word that guy and Lassila said, you can obviously tell that they are lying...

Originally Posted by tommo

Agree, it's not like we were giving money to some kid in his garage.

If a refund is offered I will happily donate it, but not to a company with shareholders looking to make a profit.

http://www.sosafrica.com/sponsor-a-child.htm... a child's education or a new pair of shoes for Antti

Originally Posted by prometheus

Actually by donating to those so called organizations you are actually buying shoes. Maybe not Antti's but someone else... Look what happened with donations for Haiti when they where hit by natural disaster... They didn't get a dime, but those organizations use that money for their own benefit (private funds).

Originally Posted by prometheus

Actually by donating to those so called organizations you are actually buying shoes. Maybe not Antti's but someone else... Look what happened with donations for Haiti when they where hit by natural disaster... They didn't get a dime, but those organizations use that money for their own benefit (private funds).

Originally Posted by aegis

I've read the irc log.

Good news but they've got an immense repair job to do now.

I'd hope that they give the tablet backers the choice to keep the tablet or get a total refund. By the time it ships the specs on the tablet are going to be a year old and you can buy intel BayTrail tablets using that hardware, maybe not the HD screen, for $50 these days.