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#101
Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
Well I think you have financial problems. So 200 USD is less than 300 USD. Leaving 100 USD for more important things than a phone.
Yes, but consider this: is $200 worth for an old phone that is probably only worth $100 nowadays?
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#102
Originally Posted by CepiPerez View Post
I have a question:
I can buy a Jolla here for USD 200, but some friend offers me a Nexus 5 for USD 300. Specs are really better (you may know it).
Is Sailfish working ok in nexus? Can I use it for development?
I have a Nexus 5 here.

I run SailfishOS 2.0 (Saimaa) on it (as Multirom image). Most of the features are supported.

- Bluetooth is a little bit wonky, specially Bluetooth Audio. When it fails you need to reboot.
- GPS is working but no AGPS
- Battery live is not that good. It drains about 40% per day (24h), when the phone is just in idle state on my table.
- There was a problem with the phone sensors that has somehow been fixed, but that has some influence on screen rotation. Sometimes you have to restart lipstick to get that fixed.
- Otherwise it is certainly a cool device for development!
- There are some people using it as daily driver as far as I read, but I would not recommend that right now.

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#103
I'm also using the Nexus 5 and can confirm all the bugs above.

My N5 actually cost me half as much as I paid for the Jolla (£110 on eBay from china - had to wait a few weeks but the device is genuine!)

Despite those few bugs listed above, it's a much nicer device to use than the jPhone (although the screen is bigger the phone itself is lighter, better battery, I can run more than 4 apps without having things force close, way faster, better camera). In addition, if Jolla goes under (hopefully not, but possible) I can run Ubuntu Touch or any other OS that uses libhybris on it.

Worth checking if you can get one cheaper on eBay, though I appreciate it might not work out to be cheaper due to import taxes etc.
 

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#104
Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
Yes, but consider this: is $200 worth for an old phone that is probably only worth $100 nowadays?
During development, It is very important to have the same hardware (screen resolution, etc) and software version with respect to the majority of users.

So I suggest to take Jolla smartphone to be used for development.
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Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
During development, It is very important to have the same hardware (screen resolution, etc) and software version with respect the majority of users.

So I suggest to take Jolla smartphone to be used for development.
Nexus 5 runs the same version of Sailfish as jPhone now. Hardware is different, but everything on top of hybris is the same!
 

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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw View Post
Nexus 5 runs the same version of Sailfish as jPhone now. Hardware is different, but everything on top of hybris is the same!
no dalvik though
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#107
Just some pints from my side:
- I don't use bluetooth, never.
- I use GPS, but not in jolla (it doesn't support 3g here, so it's useless)
- I use some androir app, but I can live without them
- Battery life is important

Screen size for develpment doesn't care since QML doesn't use pixels for resizing, so it should be the same.
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Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
no dalvik though
Good point, I forgot about that because I've never used Dalvik.

But, if you're going to develop for Sailfish, you develop for sailfish, not android
 

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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw View Post
But, if you're going to develop for Sailfish, you develop for sailfish, not android
And please Matias, do the improvement for MeeGo also.
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Originally Posted by CepiPerez View Post
Screen size for develpment doesn't care since QML doesn't use pixels for resizing, so it should be the same.
Sailfish OS on Nexus 5 looks and works very good. I am using it as my primary phone. I don't need any Android apps (thanks to you for whatsup). If I really have to use an android app for something, I have a dual-boot setup, so I can just boot in Android and do what I need to do, but I haven't had to do it for a long time.

The screen getting unresponsive to touch is the only additional annoying issue. It will take a reboot for it to fix. Some days I end up having to reboot couple times. (I hear there is a solution being worked on, but have not tested it.) I would really hope the bluetooth issue will be fixed soon also, since I would use it.

Overall better performance and 4G connectivity in US makes it a better choice for me than Jolla phone.

You can always test your app in SDK for Jolla resolution and Nexus 5 for higher resolution. I think it will be an additional benefit for buying Nexus 5 for development, so your app will look better on higher resolution phones/tablets(?).
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