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2016-03-03
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#182
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Originally Posted by theonelaw
Have a look at the xrandr options --scale and --panning!
The GPD appears to be using the internal intel gpu,
which for running X11 debian/gentoo/etc should be okay.
The screen size is a bit tight (1280x720)
but exceeds the worst case situation (1024x600,
which occasionally clips some things in XFCE).
I would guess this should be something we can <-hack->
The GPD could be interesting if it were available without Windows.
Originally Posted by theonelaw
Hidden in plain sight?
Putting an HDMI screen in my pocket is still a
hardware issue I have not quite found a (comfortable) solution for...
That's what the girl is for!
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2016-03-03
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#183
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Originally Posted by sulu
Just install linux on it then?
The GPD could be interesting if it were available without Windows.
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2016-03-03
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#184
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Neither do I support Microsoft's abusive market share argument against free choice, nor their broken EULA rejection policy by buying devices that are bundled with their OS.
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2016-03-03
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#185
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Originally Posted by sulu
I hope you realize that a license is not needed for screen sizes that are 10.1" and lower...
Neither do I support Microsoft's abusive market share argument against free choice, nor their broken EULA rejection policy by buying devices that are bundled with their OS.
So you're not paying any license money to Microsoft if you buy it.
Just keep on being such a fanboy like that...
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2016-03-03
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#186
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Originally Posted by HtheB
Prove that with an official statement by MS please!
I hope you realize that a license is not needed for screen sizes that are 10.1" and lower...
And please don't make the mistake to mix up the absence of a price tag with the absence of a licence!
Originally Posted by HtheB
I never even mentioned money.
So you're not paying any license money to Microsoft if you buy it.
Originally Posted by HtheB
I find it quite disturbing that I have to remind a council member and a moderator of the recently adopted Code of Conduct.
Just keep on being such a fanboy like that...
I believe the criteria to decide where to put my money is my free choice alone. It is your right to disagree with them, but this does not include insulting me as a fanboy of any kind.
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2016-03-03
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#187
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Originally Posted by sulu
You mean this which was applied back in 2014 for Windows 8.1 and still applies to Windows 10 and the IoT version of Windows 10 or do you want the source... here you go. Please note, before you go into a semantics fueled discussion; this applies to Windows 10 as well, which was a free upgrade from Windows 8.1 and inherited that "below 9 inches" criteria for a free license, but same EULA for usage. I've honestly no clue how the license applies to every hardware manufacturer though.
Prove that with an official statement by MS please!
And please don't make the mistake to mix up the absence of a price tag with the absence of a licence!
Normally... not I.
I never even mentioned money.
I think a smarter question would be if that situation is the same with the GPD device. And to be honest, since they're Chinese, they probably are OS agnostic and don't follow the EULA to the letter. Call it a hunch.
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2016-03-03
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#188
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I find it disturbing when an innocent word, moreover clearly used in an ironic context, is seen as an insult.
Please notice that the freedom of choice goes both ways. In this case, the choice of an OS was made by the GPD team, not some big retail chain or a specific OS producer. If you decide to build a machine, you can put whatever OS you damn please on it. So can they.
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The same goes for bundled features, BTW. If my local corner shop decided to throw in a pocket calculator with every kilo of apples I buy there, it is their damn choice and any stationery shop selling calculators has no right to complain. It is my choice if I use it or throw it away. In the same way, if an OS producer decides to bundle a browser, a text processor or a rocket launcher in their OS, it is their choice. Any whining about "monopoly" is just that, whining.
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gerbick has covered most of what I was going to say next.
Please notice that the freedom of choice goes both ways. In this case, the choice of an OS was made by the GPD team, not some big retail chain or a specific OS producer. If you decide to build a machine, you can put whatever OS you damn please on it. So can they.
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The same goes for bundled features, BTW. If my local corner shop decided to throw in a pocket calculator with every kilo of apples I buy there, it is their damn choice and any stationery shop selling calculators has no right to complain. It is my choice if I use it or throw it away. In the same way, if an OS producer decides to bundle a browser, a text processor or a rocket launcher in their OS, it is their choice. Any whining about "monopoly" is just that, whining.
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gerbick has covered most of what I was going to say next.
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2016-03-03
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#189
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Originally Posted by gerbick
That's exactly my point. The problem with this is, that MS still counts this as a Windows licence being sold, regardless of whether I accept or decline the EULA.
You still get a license but it's free.
I'm not willing to support that company by silently accepting this policy.
Originally Posted by gerbick
Well, I do. In 2010 I bought a Dell laptop without a Windows licence that would have normally shipped with one (which was a pretty lenghty process btw.).
But who worries about warranties when you're installing Linux on a device that's built for Windows?
Normally... not I.
Some time later I had to make use of the warranty and it turned out to be crucial to have the info in their DB that I bought it without Windows in the first place, because otherwise they would have wanted me to install Windows (thereby accepting the EULA) for (pointless) remote tests.
Originally Posted by gerbick
Please don't take this personally, but this attidude is part of the problem.
You have to always understand that the EULA is for the OS and has to be activated. If you do not agree to it, then there are other devices that do not seem to care about the choice of OS - Dell XPS 13 Linux/Dev Edition for instance is modern equipment sans Microsoft's Windows license & EULA attachments.[/qAnd all drivers for the device work with Ubuntu (for instance) without any issue.
I have very good reasons why I want a specific device. Another device usually doesn't meet my needs (that well).
And since there is never a technical reason why a specific device should be bundled with a specific OS, I see no reason to accept the bundling in the first place.
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2016-03-03
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Originally Posted by sulu
I can't share this concern nor worry. Especially since the metrics for this is based in the millions and unfortunately the few that think as such make up not even a percent. Sad case, more should care - but I choose apathy. Microsoft will fail on other things; this is not one of them.
That's exactly my point. The problem with this is, that MS still counts this as a Windows licence being sold, regardless of whether I accept or decline the EULA.
Well, I do. In 2010 I bought a Dell laptop without a Windows licence that would have normally shipped with one (which was a pretty lenghty process btw.).
Your decisions have made your options limited. I'm of a different mind - I do not shop where I feel limited. We're just coming in from two different directions; somewhat similar concerns, different way of dealing with those concerns.
But I get the gist of what you're saying. I'd say there are some other options for you though. More modern options.
Good luck on your endeavors.
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just waiting for permission to pass it along.
The fact that it has a hardware keyboard should make doing anything with it a lot easier in boot process.
which for running X11 debian/gentoo/etc should be okay.
The screen size is a bit tight (1280x720)
but exceeds the worst case situation (1024x600,
which occasionally clips some things in XFCE).
I would guess this should be something we can <-hack->
hardware issue I have not quite found a (comfortable) solution for...
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