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2016-03-14 , 16:12
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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
I dunno. These are all antiques. Although I like the vents and ethernet port on the Vaio! Also don't see any for sale. At least nothing without outrageous price. Maybe next year...


http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_all...news-15059.php
Used to be around £150-£200 for a used one in bidding. Maybe it's too old or just unlucky this time... It should come back at a normal price some time
 

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Originally Posted by chenliangchen View Post
Won't say it's wrong. It's also what the user need/want actually. If using app/playing games/watching movies then it's no doubt modern toys rule.
I am not talking about "toys" else I'd point to half of the stuff that I have to support. I'm talking about the rather niche/esoteric needs as you had listed out.

Most people just do not want an attached hardware keyboard right now. But here at TMO, that's in the top three. I'm speaking only to stuff that applies as top level wants here.

If considering the demands here, especially for this niche group old machines still suits.
Me too. I just do not like aging tech that is now more expensive to maintain than it's worth.

I also hate digging up old chunks but just so disappointed with what is on the market now, and that doesn't look like to change anytime "soon".
I dislike what's out now as well. But I fear it points to the fact that what we like, we're not a majority or even a huge share in the least. In fact, we're about as niche and minimal as you can get. Even kids get more update hardware than we do. And whenever we do get a device targeted towards our niche; we argue about how unsatisfactory it may be and never buy it anyway... until years later when it's harder to find and more expensive.
 

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#233
I'm glad a couple of people have had good experiences with the ux's touch ..googling sony vaio vgn-ux280p nets some of the most hits for the 180 up....and touch is one of problematic issues that seem unresolved.

I myself have been hovering over the "buy" button for a 180p ..
..throw on antix and away I go ...
antix'll run on a 1950's toaster...
so it would do well on the ux series I'm sure...
but those issues made/make me hesitate...

and yeah..
removable battery...
(so the battery life ain't the greatest...)
form factor...
proper audio in/out ports
touch (wish for more input from those who "have" no probs)
it does make it pretty good option...
regardless of age.

the current modern alternatives are ugly at this point ...ihell, buttdroid...or a literal raspbrick...
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Most people just do not want an attached hardware keyboard right now. But here at TMO, that's in the top three. I'm speaking only to stuff that applies as top level wants here.
I think it's self selecting.

Most people are quite happy with modern tablets with capacitive screens and keyboards that adapt to the context.

Those that aren't have found a place to gather.

I've had Psions, Palms, Sony Ericsson P-series, Nokia S60 touch, N900 all with resistive screens. Would I go back to having to pull a toothpick out to operate a screen or fiddly HW keyboards that are too small to type quickly on? Like fudge no.

That still doesn't mean I don't want a decent handheld Linux machine. I've got my perfect hardware already - Sony Z compact phone and tablets. I just wish someone would do a decent OS and understood that they'll succeed if they unblock the logjams that stop community developers from progressing.
 

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How curious that the same person who objected so much against a tiny status bar taking up a few pixels in one screen that no one uses for anything where those few pixels would add any value is now defending a virtual keyboard taking up more than half the screen where the lost pixels are of utmost importance
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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
How curious that the same person who objected so much against a tiny status bar taking up a few pixels in one screen that no one uses for anything where those few pixels would add any value is now defending a virtual keyboard taking up more than half the screen where the lost pixels are of utmost importance
I think you're using the wrong virtual keyboard as not all of them cover the display. And it does depend on the device.

I switch between a few different keyboards but generally I've no problem with Android's Hackers Keyboard for terminal use and in general use, Android's default keyboard is quicker than a hardware keyboard for me.

A high res screen helps a lot as even with a keyboard taking up the bottom quarter of the screen in portrait mode, I've still got a 100+ x 40+ terminal above it that is totally legible on a Z3c tablet. I get less col x rows on my laptop's lower res screen. I get a LOT less on my N900.

YMMV of course.

And I also have a Freedom iConnect bluetooth keyboard. I used to use it with my N900 because the N900 keyboard sucked. I'd rather have a 6.1mm thick tablet for 99% of the time than a tablet twice as thick to accommodate a keyboard I rarely need. I rarely carry that these days. I thought I'd use it more but IME Hackers Keyboard is good enough.

I object to status bars on aesthetic grounds. They're fugly and serve no purpose.
 

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Originally Posted by aegis View Post
I think you're using the wrong virtual keyboard to accommodate a keyboard
Ever tried to do something productive with Emacs and a virtual keyboard?
 

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#238
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
Hmm... Now e have two conflicting opinions on the VAIO UX. We need another one for 2 out of 3.
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
All of this old tech being pushed into recent discussion just doesn't instill hope that anything with modern drivers, features, display, CPU/GPU and/or functionality in mind will ever occur.

Simply stated, I don't want old tech that's outside of warranty that requires me to rely on the whims of folks that might reverse engineer something, require me to spot weld/solder something or makes me depended on people that honestly get just as disenfranchised all too quickly.
I concur.

It is a pity

Originally Posted by mscion View Post
I dunno. These are all antiques. Although I like the vents and ethernet port on the Vaio! Also don't see any for sale. At least nothing without outrageous price. Maybe next year...
Not sure if I'd recommend to buy one. It has one dealkiller for me (IMHO): thickness. It makes it unpocketable. And if I need to carry a bag, these days I just carry my Surface Pro.

All I want: make it slightly thinner. (A bit ironical for me to ask this). Performance was OK, so remove the fan if required. Maybe a little more RAM, modern Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/3G card (mine has 802.11g 2.4Ghz only, BT 2.0 and EDGE(!)), SSD (easy upgrade, I've done it).

Keep the form factor! Slide-out keyboard, "hand grip", trackpoint, removable battery.

And it is certainly possible. Equivalent hardware these days fits in smartphone-sized mobo...
 

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#239

There - fixed that:
framed and ready for printing and hanging on the wall
behind my receptionist.



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Originally Posted by gerbick:

    All of this old tech being pushed into recent discussion just doesn't instill hope that anything with modern drivers, features, display, CPU/GPU and/or functionality in mind will ever occur.
yes but a real issue is that linux drivers are always a year behind whatever hardware hits the market.
What you can buy off the shelf today will not support
a linux distro for quite some time to come,
and a worst case scenario like BayTrail never gets support.
The flips case is you get (like I have) something designed
for windows but runs horribly,
yet purrs like a kitten when you boot a proper linux.
Invariably a year old, or more.

I always thought the viao sliders were almost sexy enough,
but I never had the funds to participate back then.

As for panasonic toughbook,
I brought their sales rep to demo his latest a month ago,
and I showed him how easy it was to boot linux straight
into his machine. He took a foto of that and vanished.
It was a very nice machine, very linux compatible,
but far too expensive to consider (it was a big _lap-top).
If I find a tablet I might spend serious money,
just to have something that fits in the pocket,
but until this moment the n900 remains the only viable option.
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yes but a real issue is that linux drivers are always a year behind whatever hardware hits the market.
My issue with this... why is it still like this in 2016? The real answer and not some "Micro$oft SUX0RS" type of response won't cut it... but it's sadly all I'll expect.
 

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