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2017-12-01
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#31
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Originally Posted by Watchmaker
At 1:02 you can see Lipstic Multitasking UI in background.
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2017-12-01
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Joined on Jun 2008
@ Warsaw, Poland
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Originally Posted by Naecken
You guys are putting way too much weight into props (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatrical_property ) used for a recording a movie to get a point across.
At 1:02 you can see Lipstic Multitasking UI in background.
I'll let you know when we can show something you can touch and feel and try out in person.
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2017-12-01
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@ UK
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#33
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I've had very limited experience with crypto currencies and remain unconvinced. I enabled payment by bitcoin a few years back and all I got was 'people' wanting to host awful porn or stolen software licences.
Also, this could be scaremongering from Visa but when you read that bitcoin mining uses more electricity than Ireland or 5 times Europe's largest windfarm, you have to wonder WTF we're doing.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ricity-ireland
So, convince me. Why is this a good idea? What purpose does it serve?
And then we've got to get past the disappointment of Jolla's delivery.
Also, this could be scaremongering from Visa but when you read that bitcoin mining uses more electricity than Ireland or 5 times Europe's largest windfarm, you have to wonder WTF we're doing.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ricity-ireland
So, convince me. Why is this a good idea? What purpose does it serve?
And then we've got to get past the disappointment of Jolla's delivery.
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2017-12-01
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#34
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Originally Posted by aegis
Indeed bitcoin uses a lot of electricity for the mining, but the world of cryptocurrencies extends far beyond what bitcoin has to offer. In many ways bitcoin is starting to look a bit archaic compared to some newer offerings.
Also, this could be scaremongering from Visa but when you read that bitcoin mining uses more electricity than Ireland or 5 times Europe's largest windfarm, you have to wonder WTF we're doing.
So why is this a good idea? with things like ethereum tokens you can design your own economy and incentive structures and see if it works. Normally this kind of economic experimentation has only been the area of governments who are naturally conservative about these things so it will be interesting to see what people will come up with.
One of the things Zipper is interested in is economies around ideas and creating incentive structures to make those ideas a reality through spontaneous collaboration rather than winner-takes-all competition.
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2017-12-01
, 16:36
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Joined on Nov 2007
@ Cambridge, UK
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Originally Posted by aegis
Valid concerns, but as generation of clean energy increases year on year and the performance over power consumption increases I don't think this is much of an issue.
I've had very limited experience with crypto currencies and remain unconvinced. I enabled payment by bitcoin a few years back and all I got was 'people' wanting to host awful porn or stolen software licences.
Also, this could be scaremongering from Visa but when you read that bitcoin mining uses more electricity than Ireland or 5 times Europe's largest windfarm, you have to wonder WTF we're doing.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ricity-ireland
So, convince me. Why is this a good idea? What purpose does it serve?
And then we've got to get past the disappointment of Jolla's delivery.
I can understand your disappointment with Jolla, the financial difficulties they had previously. I know they try very hard to keep everyone happy with what limited resources they have. This project isn't a Jolla project, it is a new endeavor, there is no hardware manufacturer to impede Zippers' progress, like there was with the Jolla 1 and tablet projects, which cost the company so much in time, resources and money.
We are working with known factors, the Xperia program from Jolla has so far been a success and is working beautifully as I understand it. You have to remember Zipper is delivering a software solution, utilizing modern hardware which is already available. Developing APKs and RPMs to run on normal devices and tailoring builds for the Xperia to prove that it is possible to build a hardware wallet with adequate security to bring blockchain markets to the day-to-day mobile user.
Jolla's involvement will be to help build this vision, as they have the expertise in the hardware adaptations and platform parts Zipper needs.
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2017-12-01
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Hah! What did I just see! For one second I read "Community Ambassador - Jolla " 
Say what you want, but IMO this would be the solution for Jolla's paid app in the harbour.
@StsKeeps, as this is ethereum based, is there an sdk available?
Say what you want, but IMO this would be the solution for Jolla's paid app in the harbour.
@StsKeeps, as this is ethereum based, is there an sdk available?
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2017-12-02
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First up, thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately, your statement ("Hey, I just found some BTC with value which were worth **** some time ago") points in exactly the direction of speculative investment with the hope of increasing rates.
Since I'm not convinced by the bases your business relies on, I'm quite sure we won't find any common grounds, and that's ok. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you found a topic the interests you and that you see as opportunity for your business - that's great. I, on the other hand, see quite some potential issues that I want to point out, so the people who are not familiar with blockchain-based projects can make an educated decision.
I may be wrong (which I hope), you may be wrong (which I'm not hoping) - only time will tell.
Originally Posted by Stskeeps
So again, what is your use case here? Providing (another) wallet that user can use for micropayments? How is this to work out when you bind yourself to Etherium, which already became involved in high-risk speculative investments, because people greedily hoping that it will become the new Bitcoin? How can I use virtual currency which value is changing rapidly in short periods of time, so the rate may be double or half by tomorrow? How can I be convinced in the value of virtual numbers which are not backed by real world values (like federal banks and countries for real world currency or company inventory for stocks) and which can simply vanish?
This is far from being such a project. I fully agree that the current state of things is crazy and this is part of the reason why we're doing a project to genuinely make it a proper out of box experience. I even get confused with some of the setups needed - I even randomly found 250 EUR worth of Bitcoin I had totally forgotten I had. It's like the amount of manual work to get mobile internet working back in the day.
Unfortunately, your statement ("Hey, I just found some BTC with value which were worth **** some time ago") points in exactly the direction of speculative investment with the hope of increasing rates.
How about you send me a private message on here and we'll have a more real-time conversation on some medium (Telegram? IRC?); and then gather our thoughts and differing views into a post for the rest?
I may be wrong (which I hope), you may be wrong (which I'm not hoping) - only time will tell.
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2017-12-02
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Joined on Nov 2007
@ Cambridge, UK
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#38
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Originally Posted by jenix
Out of interest, did you read the whitepaper?
First up, thanks for your reply.
So again, what is your use case here? Providing (another) wallet that user can use for micropayments? How is this to work out when you bind yourself to Etherium, which already became involved in high-risk speculative investments, because people greedily hoping that it will become the new Bitcoin? How can I use virtual currency which value is changing rapidly in short periods of time, so the rate may be double or half by tomorrow? How can I be convinced in the value of virtual numbers which are not backed by real world values (like federal banks and countries for real world currency or company inventory for stocks) and which can simply vanish?
Unfortunately, your statement ("Hey, I just found some BTC with value which were worth **** some time ago") points in exactly the direction of speculative investment with the hope of increasing rates.
Since I'm not convinced by the bases your business relies on, I'm quite sure we won't find any common grounds, and that's ok. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you found a topic the interests you and that you see as opportunity for your business - that's great. I, on the other hand, see quite some potential issues that I want to point out, so the people who are not familiar with blockchain-based projects can make an educated decision.
I may be wrong (which I hope), you may be wrong (which I'm not hoping) - only time will tell.
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2017-12-05
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@ Israel
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#39
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Another project from same people who never finish what they started and open new projects
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2017-12-27
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@ Netherlands
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#40
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Hi,
I've just read the whitepaper and this is what come in my mind after reading it.
Please add dapps to page 5, I needed to Google for it and you are explaining a lot of things on that page but not dapps.
I do like the word dapps, it sounds nice in dutch.
The part 3 part, how the wonderful world of Zipper could look like isstill far away. The whitepaper isn't giving enough info in my opinion on how the reach to that wonderfull world, are there yet some conrete developers which are commited to Zipper?
Not just Jolla and the Sony hw but maybe some other brands?
There are 1 biljon Zip tokens to be released over years, when i see the images the show 4 years and in the last year the total of 860.000.000 zip tokens is released, is the rest released after that time?
And what happens with the money if someone invest's in the company. When will the invested money(in ZIP tokens I guess) be able to return to the earlier owner?
How does that roadmap look like?
Thanks in advance
I've just read the whitepaper and this is what come in my mind after reading it.
Please add dapps to page 5, I needed to Google for it and you are explaining a lot of things on that page but not dapps.
I do like the word dapps, it sounds nice in dutch.
The part 3 part, how the wonderful world of Zipper could look like isstill far away. The whitepaper isn't giving enough info in my opinion on how the reach to that wonderfull world, are there yet some conrete developers which are commited to Zipper?
Not just Jolla and the Sony hw but maybe some other brands?
There are 1 biljon Zip tokens to be released over years, when i see the images the show 4 years and in the last year the total of 860.000.000 zip tokens is released, is the rest released after that time?
And what happens with the money if someone invest's in the company. When will the invested money(in ZIP tokens I guess) be able to return to the earlier owner?
How does that roadmap look like?
Thanks in advance