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Originally Posted by deutch1976
See even the N9 doubles in price (ex-China refurb.) for the time it takes to use Harmattan flasher.
Talking about overpriced devices...
https://buy.jolla-devices.com/
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Ok, so I will use free version and maybe buy in future. Thanks in advance everyone
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Originally Posted by nonsuch
Well... I am very satisfied but fully working is not really exact.
fully working* and still fully supported with upgrades ...
* what ric9k said about this
Still some small (I'm lucky, others are less) frustrating things but generally, I prefer it 1000 times than an Goopple thing, even with the bugs and (relative) youth issues.
EDIT: If I could surf, pic-mms, manage videos and take pics faster without crasshing, use gps fluently, I'd still prefer my N900!
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Originally Posted by deutch1976
In the light of recent developments you will find that Sony devices with SailfishOS pre-installed have been temporarily withdrawn upon this site.
Talking about overpriced devices...
https://buy.jolla-devices.com/
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Originally Posted by ric9K
I didn't mean it like that. I meant it makes a fully usable smartphone with what is considered standard features - most notably, the ability to reliably make and receive phone calls and SMS via touch UI.
Well... I am very satisfied but fully working is not really exact.
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Originally Posted by nonsuch
Oh, yes, in that case yes.
I didn't mean it like that. I meant it makes a fully usable smartphone with what is considered standard features - most notably, the ability to reliably make and receive phone calls and SMS via touch UI.
phone, sms and also:
-photo/video (which sets focus too often and w/o discretion)
-mms with photos (didn't try video)
-music + bluetooth
-gps (with necron hack (supl.google)), tracking
-calendar
-calculator
-alarms
-encryption
-on/offline maps (pure maps+osm scout) + nav with speech
-terminal
-easy link with pc (ssh/sshfs) = easy backup (rsync)
-wifi/data
-browser (some sites don't work though)
-offline dictionary/translation
+ all what I don't remember ATM
I regret:
-few cli linux tools
-more closed than N900 = harder to fiddle/hack/program
-no raw pictures
-no arrows/ctrl keys to select/move into text
-some closed parts, no guarantee I am not spied
+ all what I don't remember ATM
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Originally Posted by ric9K
-few cli linux tools
I regret:
Um. There's a lot available - even in the official repos - that doesn't show up in jolla store. And more in Openrepos.
Ever tried some 'pkcon' commands in the terminal / via ssh?
-more closed than N900 = harder to fiddle/hack/program
Unless you have specific examples, this is either highly subjective or simply not true.
-no raw pictures
Maybe Advanced Camera can? I'm not sure. Maybe not.
-no arrows/ctrl keys to select/move into text
Well, it doesn't have a physical keyboard obviously but virtual keyboard extensions for that exist, I'm using this.
Text selection is tricky though, no argument from me.
-some closed parts, no guarantee I am not spied
Isn't N900 partly closed too, if that's what you're comparing to?
Also, did you ever read the license, TOS & privacy policy for SFOS?
You might want to check out the SFOS articles in my signature.
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Originally Posted by nonsuch
I maybe repeat myself: I am not complaining at all and am very happy with my SFOS XA2.
-few cli linux tools
Um. There's a lot available - even in the official repos - that doesn't show up in jolla store. And more in Openrepos.
Ever tried some 'pkcon' commands in the terminal / via ssh?
Yes, pkcon/zypper through ssh.
FWIR, I was searching for expect, screen, some tools like that.
No other examples to my mind ATM but I had the impression that much more tools/apps were ported to N900. I might be wrong.
Originally Posted by nonsuch
Highly subjective. I should have said I'm not a dev. I made lots of scripts on my N900, some with zenity or Tk with python to have kind of a GUI.
-more closed than N900 = harder to fiddle/hack/program
Unless you have specific examples, this is either highly subjective or simply not true.
In SFOS, I have the impression there are less workaround for half-ignorants like me. Only the SDK which I'd love to use but seems very frightening to me, hyper complicated. Dunno where to begin with.
-no raw pictures
Maybe Advanced Camera can? I'm not sure. Maybe not.
-no arrows/ctrl keys to select/move into text
Well, it doesn't have a physical keyboard obviously but virtual keyboard extensions for that exist, I'm using this.
Text selection is tricky though, no argument from me.
-some closed parts, no guarantee I am not spied
Isn't N900 partly closed too, if that's what you're comparing to?
Also, did you ever read the license, TOS & privacy policy for SFOS?
You might want to check out the SFOS articles in my signature.
Love is blind
I never imagined I could be spied on my N900. Maybe because it was more like an UFO.I admit, I didn't read the license, TOS & privacy policy for SFOS, not fully, at least. Because Goopple also say the are protecting privacy.
I end up thinking there is always a rhetoric and few proofs, finally.
I prefer trusting a community or e.g. a guy/group having analysed the outgoing traffic.
I live with it but just can't swear to others it is a fully safe system.
Your articles are interesting, thanks. Placed in my next "to read".
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Originally Posted by ric9K
FWIR, I was searching for expect, screen, some tools like that.
Code:
$> pkcon search screen (...) Available screen-4.7.0+git1-1.5.3.jolla.armv7hl (jolla) A screen manager that supports multiple logins on one terminal (..) $> pkcon search expect (...) Available expect-5.45.4+git1-1.2.1.jolla.armv7hl (jolla) A Tool for Automating Interactive Programs
I made lots of scripts on my N900, some with zenity or Tk with python to have kind of a GUI.
In SFOS, I have the impression there are less workaround for half-ignorants like me.
FWIW I use qCommand for GUI access to scripts.
Alas, Advanced Camera is not working on the XA2.
Oh great. what extension are they?
I'm going to keep on answering your questions until you give up
https://buy.jolla-devices.com/