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2008-04-06
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There are those that have used an EVDO modem + adapter to allow access to the cell network via WiFi on NIT's. It does require a few items to be carried in a backpack since they are not small enough to slip into a pocket. I'll see if I can find the thread.
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2008-04-06
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-STAR
Hams can now use D-STAR for digital voice and data. Though it seems that you would not be able to use any SSL connections since you're not allowed to encrypt ham transmissions.
Hams can now use D-STAR for digital voice and data. Though it seems that you would not be able to use any SSL connections since you're not allowed to encrypt ham transmissions.
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2008-04-06
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Originally Posted by bg4
What would having a ham radio license have to do with wifi? Having a ham or amateur radio license allows you to talk (or cw) on specific frequencies allocated by the FCC. Wifi does not come under FCC rules and is (as far as know) open stardards. High power/home brew wifi on 2.4 Ghz can be made by anyone.
**Legally**
Remember the FCC likes regulations
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Scraping money together to get a n810 and/or n800.
Scraping money together to get a n810 and/or n800.
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2008-04-06
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The only way to really do this is through bt tethering. Wifi hoping is not really a solution because while moving about your daily business you can easily move out of range of all wifi spots. For example, driving home from work you will most likely not have continuous internet.
However, if you bt tether and leave a web page open (to prevent the automatic time-out some carriers have) you can maintain an internet connection as long as you have a cellular connection (much more ubiquitous than wifi and can be sustained while driving home) and battery power.
However, if you bt tether and leave a web page open (to prevent the automatic time-out some carriers have) you can maintain an internet connection as long as you have a cellular connection (much more ubiquitous than wifi and can be sustained while driving home) and battery power.
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2008-04-06
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Using the built in IM client for gtalk also does a good job of keeping the connection on.
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2008-04-06
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Originally Posted by MstPrgmr
I agree about wifi, unless its a huge network like city level or college campus level, I wonder why nobody's figured out a way to use an external WiFI antennae with a nXXX; that way you could mount it on your car roof/accordingly, still it wouldn't help too much if your in urban areas because WiFi is primarily accessible with line-of-site propagation, and i forgot what the others called but bouncing waves of metal structures.
The only way to really do this is through bt tethering. Wifi hoping is not really a solution because while moving about your daily business you can easily move out of range of all wifi spots. For example, driving home from work you will most likely not have continuous internet.
However, if you bt tether and leave a web page open (to prevent the automatic time-out some carriers have) you can maintain an internet connection as long as you have a cellular connection (much more ubiquitous than wifi and can be sustained while driving home) and battery power.
About the bt tether, couldn't you just continuously ping a host (I recognize this would take a little bit of processor power like 1% but not too bad.) So uh, I dunno, I need to get a tablet I see what is possible to stay connected in my area for myself...
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2008-04-06
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Cradlepoint personal hotspot (http://www.evdoforums.com/viewforum.php?f=26) + EVDO or similar Cell modem. I use the UM-150 since it has a LED signal strength display.
This will work anywhere there is a cell signal, however there are a few weak spots, or when carriers change (roaming) the modem might do something like a soft-reset which will break the connections. There is an annoying section of I-90 in SE minnesota between Rochester and LaCrosse...
But most of the time I've gotten continuous coverage - listening to internet radio even through some of the longer tunnels of the PA Turnpike.
The Sprint 727 apparently does GPS (via cell - may work indoors, but not confirmed).
This will work anywhere there is a cell signal, however there are a few weak spots, or when carriers change (roaming) the modem might do something like a soft-reset which will break the connections. There is an annoying section of I-90 in SE minnesota between Rochester and LaCrosse...
But most of the time I've gotten continuous coverage - listening to internet radio even through some of the longer tunnels of the PA Turnpike.
The Sprint 727 apparently does GPS (via cell - may work indoors, but not confirmed).
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2008-04-07
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Originally Posted by tz1
Cradlepoint personal hotspot (http://www.evdoforums.com/viewforum.php?f=26) + EVDO or similar Cell modem. I use the UM-150 since it has a LED signal strength display.
This will work anywhere there is a cell signal, however there are a few weak spots, or when carriers change (roaming) the modem might do something like a soft-reset which will break the connections. There is an annoying section of I-90 in SE minnesota between Rochester and LaCrosse...
But most of the time I've gotten continuous coverage - listening to internet radio even through some of the longer tunnels of the PA Turnpike.
The Sprint 727 apparently does GPS (via cell - may work indoors, but not confirmed).
From my understanding, this is essentially the same thing I was talking about. Using a cellular network (EDVO) to provide continuous internet is the only way to currently supply ubiquitous internet without wimax. I think this option may even be better than wimax, because wimax would probably be very expensive whereas you can tether to a phone for a small monthly fee or maybe even free (search howardforums.com for details). However, wimax will be much faster.
Also, I was under the impression that Sprint has not even set up wimax yet. It is a theoretical system that may not live up to expectations. I also wonder how much battery power would be consumed by wimax, though bt tethering kills cellphone batteries anyway so that may be a mute question. Being locked down to sprint also has me a bit uneasy and the availability of wimax is questionable.
I was strongly considering selling my N800 to get a N810, but I think I will wait till the wimax version comes out before making the switch. Is there any place where I can get concrete information on this new wimax tablet? The video is pretty useless and gives no details.
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2008-04-07
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Originally Posted by MstPrgmr
It's an N810—with WiMAX.
I was strongly considering selling my N800 to get a N810, but I think I will wait till the wimax version comes out before making the switch. Is there any place where I can get concrete information on this new wimax tablet? The video is pretty useless and gives no details.
Seriously, though. There's not all that much to know until we get closer to release. What we know basically amounts to: there's nothing new and exciting on the hardware front (aside from the WiMAX radio and black/orange), and the software front is just Diablo. As far as Sprint goes, XOHM is contractless and priced somewhere between $30-$60 depending on bandwidth (1-4Mbps). Supposedly they may also have daily access available.
Coverage seems spotty at best, D.C. and Chicago are definitely covered, but I couldn't find any good, centralized info on other locations—there are more, though.
As far as international support goes, we don't know yet. There are a variety of frequencies it's being deployed on (2.5GHz in the US with XOHM), so new versions will obviously be required for support in a lot of EU locations. Canada may not need much of a hardware change, but things aren't (seemingly) as in-shape as I was thinking. Not sure how locked-in to Sprint the software-side of things is yet.
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2008-04-07
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Originally Posted by bg4
Really, no such thing as "open standards" where communications are concerned in the US. And yes, the FCC does have jurisdiction:
Wifi does not come under FCC rules and is (as far as know) open stardards.
http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10...es-on-wifi-use
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20...-approves-wifi
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060921-7797.html
etc etc etc.
Google first, then post.
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