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2008-07-25 , 11:04
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
As I haven't moved to Diablo yet (still on OS2007 in fact), I'm a bit curious about that flashing icon.. I take it it'll do an 'apt-get update' equivalent when you go online. Is there a way to turn that behaviour off, or control it manually? I may not always want it to transfer any more data than I need there and then, particularly if I go online (indirectly or directly) through a phone connection.
Yes, it seems to apt-get update.
I'm not really sure on how to disable it. You could disable the statusbar icon in control panel.

If it still does apt-get update periodically, I'd look into disabling some rc2.d services (there is an hildon-application-manager entry in rc2.d)
 
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2008-07-25 , 11:05
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
As I haven't moved to Diablo yet (still on OS2007 in fact)
Quit stalling and do it. Bora sucks.

Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
I'm a bit curious about that flashing icon.. I take it it'll do an 'apt-get update' equivalent when you go online.
Essentially, yes. It updates the repositories in the background once a day, with a bit of logic thrown in for online/offline.

Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
Is there a way to turn that behaviour off, or control it manually? I may not always want it to transfer any more data than I need there and then, particularly if I go online (indirectly or directly) through a phone connection.
I don't know if the logic factors in GPRS stuff (I'm assuming it does, as other things in the system do), but that'd be something worth confirming. -developers would be an excellent place to start (actually, technically, -users is probably better, but -users is a hellhole of idiocy and bad advice).

If you don't want update notifications, simply disable the icon, but the repository refreshing goes on as usual.
 
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2008-07-25 , 11:18
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I am not very convinced that SSU can make major upgade for example to Fremantle. Reason: there is no space.

When ubuntu or debian is upgraded to a new release major part of the packages need to be upgraded at same time and they all need to be downloaded somewhere. Maybe there is some hackery to use mmc's as temporary storage because internal flash is just too small.
 
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2008-07-25 , 11:24
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Originally Posted by mikkov View Post
When ubuntu or debian is upgraded to a new release major part of the packages need to be upgraded at same time and they all need to be downloaded somewhere. Maybe there is some hackery to use mmc's as temporary storage because internal flash is just too small.
Application manager caches to the internal card by default.
 
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2008-07-25 , 11:28
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I thought each firmware release had its own codename?

Oh no wait, you're right, they did that power bug fix firmware without a new codename didn't they...
OS2008-51.3 did not changed rootfs (compared to 50.x one) but only bootloader. So thats probably why they did not changed name.
 
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2008-07-25 , 11:36
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The flashing orange icon lets you know there are updates and then you can choose to install from the app manager and either Install all updates or only update whcihever apps you want and not all. that is what I do personally too....
 
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2008-07-25 , 12:10
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As for bora, it doesn't suck for me.. it works perfectly fine, there are no glaring bugs that affect me that would be fixed in Diablo. I'll update at some point, but there's no hurry really.
When it comes to auto-refreshing, I'm of the opinion that it should _always_ be the user's decision to enable or disable those kind of things - the user must always be in control over what the device does on the network. I'm pretty sure I can figure out how to fix that for myself, but for the more common user it may not be as easy.
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
As for bora, it doesn't suck for me.. it works perfectly fine, there are no glaring bugs that affect me that would be fixed in Diablo.
Yeah, well, what's your basis for comparison?

Besides, I'd say a CPU underclocked by 70MHz is a pretty big "bug" that's been fixed.
 
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2008-07-25 , 12:55
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It's not like bugs are only apparent when you compare with something.. either there are bugs or there aren't. The only problem I have in OS2007 is that the email client doesn't honour the imap 'read' flag, but in Diablo there's modest instead, which from all the reports I've seen isn't working the way I want it yet.

Other than that, there are no bugs that affect me.. so how could it _possibly_ be better in Diablo? As for the 70MHz, I have no applications on the N800 that makes me think "Ah, I just wish this application could run 21% faster..", so no "bug" there either.. besides, I don't like the look of the OS2008 UI, the icons and everything looks more toyish to me than the OS2007 UI. All in all, if it ain't broken..

(I _will_ upgrade at some point, at least when there's some killer feature I need, e.g. java applet support built-in in the browser).

Anyway, this is straying a bit off-topic.. we were talking about the update function, and I still maintain that this should really be under full control of the user.
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
It's not like bugs are only apparent when you compare with something.. either there are bugs or there aren't. The only problem I have in OS2007 is that the email client doesn't honour the imap 'read' flag, but in Diablo there's modest instead, which from all the reports I've seen isn't working the way I want it yet.

Other than that, there are no bugs that affect me.. so how could it _possibly_ be better in Diablo? As for the 70MHz, I have no applications on the N800 that makes me think "Ah, I just wish this application could run 21% faster..", so no "bug" there either.. besides, I don't like the look of the OS2008 UI, the icons and everything looks more toyish to me than the OS2007 UI. All in all, if it ain't broken..

(I _will_ upgrade at some point, at least when there's some killer feature I need, e.g. java applet support built-in in the browser).

Anyway, this is straying a bit off-topic.. we were talking about the update function, and I still maintain that this should really be under full control of the user.
While we are at it...

Why not dual boot both diablo and bora?
That way you can have an idea and have the best of both worlds....
 
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