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#131
The next iPhone doesn't have TomTom bundled. You'll have to pay for it, just like any of the default Nokia Maps applications.
 
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#132
You're right, thats what I meant to say.
 
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Just got back from Amsterdam, and I have to admit, the NIT was mostly useless as a GPS device.

When I get a fix (which, I admit, is now quicker thanks to A-GPS), its often gone again, and then its there again.

It was totally unclear to which position I should go. There are no streetnames written on the map, and it isn't possible to make the temporarily show. How am I supposed to know where I should go to in such a complex city then?

My battery also got empty quickly. Some application used a lot of CPU (navicore and Xomap). No clue why but its the unofficial Xomap for rotation support. After I filled in my route, the thing again gets a GPS fix, while it already had one. WTF? Then need to wait again...

Without a headset it isn't very useful. You can't just watch on the NIT everywhere in Amsterdam. Its crowdy, and thieves are always on the watch. Its better to not show off, whereas sound in headphones is useful. However, my headphones come out very difficult out of the NIT.

Finally, my bicycle went rampant, and I had to put the chain again correctly on it, rendering my fingers very dirty. While I was able to remove a lot of it by rubbing a tree (don't ask ) I still felt I couldn't use the NIT anymore for navigating.

Now on to more important matters.

I received some PMs from people who prefer to remain private.

Here is again libmacspoof uploaded. If someone else can host this feel free. You need libmacspoof if you already lost your trial period, and not have the original key (I think it resides in ~user/.navicore )

Put the libraries in your home dir (you can move them elsewhere too but you need to change the paths below then).

Issue this command: MAC_ADDRESS=00:11:22:33:44:55 LD_PRELOAD="/home/user/libmacspoof.so.1.0.1:/home/user/libfaketimeMT.so.1" FAKETIME="@2008-07-15 `date +%T`" navicore <- but note you need to come up with a unique MAC address (in hex/base-16 format).

The above works for Map 2.2.6.xxx

If you are running 2.2.8.xxx you need to hexedit a binary. This is outlined in a few posts back. Good luck!

Last edited by allnameswereout; 2008-07-15 at 11:19. Reason: 2.2.6 & 2.2.8 difference
 
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#134
I have hex-edited and used libmacspoof and libfaketime, but I keep getting
"Licensing failed.
Clock incorrect.
Please check phone's date and time settings"
message whenever it finish calculating the route, and quits after I click ok.
Any ideas?
It does display I have 3 days left when the program starts, tho.
 
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#135
Odd.. I'll give it a (re)try here... once I get a lock... ZzZz.

Which version do you run?
 
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#136
Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Perhaps its better to use Maemo Mapper to start with, or the above extension of trial period. I find Maemo Mapper... too cluttered/vague/weird/difficult to use.
Take the time to figure it out; you will be very happy with it! My favorite thing is loading my GPS tracks into Google Earth and seeing where I just went... Kinda boring for Amsterdam, maybe, but lots of fun when hiking in the mountains...
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Take the time to figure it out; you will be very happy with it! My favorite thing is loading my GPS tracks into Google Earth and seeing where I just went... Kinda boring for Amsterdam, maybe, but lots of fun when hiking in the mountains...
It surely is useful (not boring) in Amsterdam. My intention in Amsterdam wasn't to use it as a toy, or for fun. It was meant to be used as an aid instead of using maps or asking people around (luckily people in Amsterdam are nice folks). There are all kind of little and small pearls happening in Amsterdam. They're announced in the paper, and an address is listed. Instead of using a map, I'd use a GPS system instead. Faster and easier. Unfortunately, see the earlier message...

Aesthetically I find Maemo-Mapper not nice. But that is overcomable.

Next I get all kind of problems: cannot get fix easily, the maps aren't preloaded, I cannot find the POI, and the interface has all kind of technical terms I just don't want to know about (yet). I've come to the conclusion Maemo-Mapper is more for power users while I want an application which Just Works (tm). Usability-wise it isn't there yet, at least not for me. Usability is important for me, especially on a device like the NIT. I believe the Maemo-Mapper guys have a lot to learn in this regard. In the meantime I'll stick with what works for me. Out of box experience!!

It all starts when I open the program for the first time. A popup tells me it appears I run the software for the first time, and asks me to read the Help file. That isn't promising. Probably means its complex software. Next I get a configuration popup with 6 tabs. Intimidating. The first one asks me to select my GPS. Instead, the program should have known my N810 has a GPS and by default select this because most people with a N810 want it this way. Because the application doesn't do this I start to distrust its default settings. I check if I have /dev/pgps and yes, I do, so I selected this. The rest I leave intact although I'd like to use Wayfinder's POI database. Then I downloaded a list of repositories. It now defaults to Yahoo. I don't know if I want that. I want the best one available for my country (The Netherlands), no questions asked. I have 8 choices instead. Now I select Google Street because I know maps.google.com and Google Earth a bit and know they are of good quality (although I'm not a fan of Google's privacy policies). Now I see Europe, and its searching for a GPS receiver. I have A-GPS enabled. The icon of the GPS in systray appears and disappears, while the application says searching for GPS receiver. There is a thunderstorm and I'm going to quit using the NIT, leaving the device on. Maybe it has a fix in an hour or so... oh wait, it now gets an error it cannot connect to the GPS server. Maybe if I start Wayfinder first...? Yes, now its establishing GPS fix.

Interestingly, I now notice /usr/sbin/gpsd is running but it says /usr/sbin/gpsd -n -N -F /tmp/.gpsd_ctrl_sock /dev/pgp while Maemo-Mapper uses /dev/pgps. I don't even have a /dev/pgp. My /dev/pgps is a symlink to /dev/pts/0. Something seems very wrong here, but I know the gpsd was started by Wayfinder... sigh

I made a symlink from /dev/pgps to /dev/pgp just to be sure. I also read the manual and made it set to BlueTooth with no furthermore settings. This is totally illogic to me and a prime example of the usability issues this program has!

Just to make sure, I don't know who the Maemo-Mapper authors are, and I certainly don't mean to offend anyone. All I do is express myself in honesty. I do suggest in a more broad sense some kind of way to gather user experiences. I've once read a report about this which was very good. A professor would have GNOME and KDE installed on a standard, user-friendly end-user system. Now, someone would describe their first name, their past user experiences, their employment, their hobbies, and what they use a computer normally for. Next, the user starts to use the DE and writes down on the moment their experience. This includes a lot of subjective aspects like their feelings, their character as person, and so on. Afterwards one is able to read, besides subjectiveness, their experience and you can replay it. You're able to empathize with the user, and you can follow their logic based on the (albeit still limited) facts you know about the user. You can then translate this into a usability report, and feedback to the software. This paper was published a few years ago, and featured on Slashdot.org & OSnews.com. I'd love to see these principles gathered in a project; perhaps similar or contributing to openusability.org. Perhaps there already is such a thing for maemo, but what I also mean is besides a Bugzilla a database which includes usability related issues or even simply experiences. If there are sets of guidelines for such database the raw data can be easier parsed than say a discussion thread.
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#138
Originally Posted by genexk View Post
"Licensing failed.
Clock incorrect.
Please check phone's date and time settings"
Any ideas?
probably your system clock has drifted too far from the very accurate gps clock.
 
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#139
anyone tried with today's update If this method still works?
 
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#140
It still works, but you need to do the hexeditting of /usr/libexec/navicore-navigator again.
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