oooh, that's cheating.

i only have folders on the first level.

On my desktop I use bookmarks like my blog
Barring the top 10 or so items I rarely go back into them unless I recall something.

With a little basic HTML you can create a page with multiple columns of links/bookmarks. Granted adding more bookmarks isn't as strait forward as what the small world icon to the right of the address bar does but you don't have the formating freedom HTML will give you.

FYI: you can also create bookmarks for files in your N8x0 that will give you visibility not available with the File Manger or Open functions of your applications. "file:///home/user" will show you the "native" Linux file names and let you see the hidden configuration files not available to the GUI.

fragos,
thanks for that little nugget i've made a note

its read only access, but simpler than explaining commands to a user, if a configuration or log file is wanted I can simply give them the address to open and copy directly from there

A fear and a hope:

A fear: I was flown to Toronto for training by Commodore as part of a big push to get store owners trained on selling the Amiga. They were really ramping up all things Amiga, and pulling in enthusiastic community members to play a larger role... Shortly thereafter (a year or two), the Amiga disappeared, as did Commodore. I hope Maemo doesn't do this, a year or two after the big Summit in Berlin.

A hope: I see Symbian slowly slipping into the background, and the standards-compliant Maemo stepping up and taking its place as the mobile OS for all Nokia's devices; it is very scalable and robust, and built entirely on open APIs and technologies... Perfect for dropping onto all sorts of devices.

Nowhere did I say the future of the IT is an iPhone.
I only said the iPhone and the IT are comparable in some ways (in response to the parent post about it being as different as water and fire) if you include the Phone in the IT (and I am only comparing the functions, not features in hardware or software).

For that matter the IT with a phone will be comparable to the iPhone or the Axim, or the G1, or the Samsung or any other PDA/computing device with a phone on it too.

So I think you are baised in your vehemence in refusing to see similarities in function and denouncing iPhone so religiously when even the Dell Axim or the O2 are similar in function to the iPhone - the only difference being each device is geared to a particular function more than the other (and this is true for any electronic device).

For me personally since I don't have access to wifi everywhere and I rely on the data connection on my phone, I would prefer the IT to be my phone too. That does not mean it has to copy the iPhone. It copies any device with a phone on it - and there are countless such devices. To each his choice. And no, nobody is saying the iPhone is the gold standard, so don't put your own prejudices (against the iPhone) into a topic where functions are being compared and not the devices themselves (or the religion for that matter).

The simpler the UI the less control the user has. In some instances that's not a user issue because the device meets their needs and expectation. IMHO, a computer that can do phone is a more useful device than a phone that also does some computer. I prefer the Nokia but for my taste I see some artificial limitations that have been built in by narrowing the function to Internet tablet. Not that Internet tablet is bad, just that other root PIM capabilities are needed for any device to be a constant companion. For me, open source is also important because marketing oriented artificial limitations can still be overcome. Mcalendar and gToDo overcame some of those issues for me but I'm still a bit disappointed that the contacts ignores physical location and flexible free form notes so the contacts can do the most basic of CRM.

Since the Nokia tube came out - Nokia's first touchscreen phone, this is what I have been thinking too - only if Nokia makes Maemo as the default OS on them instead of S60 - then that would be the N900 maybe (though I would like to have the hardware keyboard too of course).

And I do hope that the N series of tube devices will someday have Maemo on it and that will be the future IT/phone device.

Atari was way better anyway.
A-ta-ri! A-ta-ri! A-ta-ri! A-ta-ri!

(They died even before Commodore, didn't they? Oh well... good old times.)

I saw it from a different layer (communication layer between device and Internet). But yes.

Why do you need to do this? Are you hyperactive? Do you think normal people like to do this every 2.603 seconds? I can tell you: they don't. They write one e-mail, and are dedicated to finish it. They, in general, don't want distractions such as "oh, my daughter just send me an IM" or "perhaps Joe is on IRC". Or at least want to keep the temptation to the minimum.

Why, do you think, GNOME does not by default show the CPU and memory resources in a panel or desklet? Why, do you think, Windows allows one to hide the taskbar when there is no focus on it?

The deal is this: you're one of the many here not using the right side of the brain well enough. However, most people do. If you want to make these people feel comfortable on the NIT you have to give them a UI which works for them. Incidentally, this is also why Apple is popular in artistic circles. I bet a scientific study would prove iPhone users very much use their right side of the brain.

For example, I never remember street names. I know how to get somewhere by driving and recognizing the environment. Hardly by counting, names. Ofcourse, cities have names, but thats about as far as it goes. When you name a city, I have a picture in my mind, and a feeling about it. This is also why I'm glad I have a GPS system in which I can add favourites!

So, instead of links which contain a name, you want a picture (or maybe both to satisfy the left side of brain people). That is how most people remember a website. An example of this principle is Opera's Speeddial. It makes sense too. People have a limited amount of websites they visit regularly. The other links are archives or irregular visits. The latter, people probably want to have synced with their desktop/laptop.

The visual solution would be to allow users to group bookmarks based on icons which represent their categories. Because the icons aren't available on the NIT they'd have to be downloaded. SVG artwork would be best for this. If people would prefer a smiley with glasses to represent the 'geek' category then it could grab this icon from the Internet and allow the user to categorize this way.

In the end, you'd get a Finnish NextStep you'll enter a learning curve like there is in Chinese and Japanese but once you understand it, its very logical. Finnish is also like this (very modular), but text-based instead of symbol-based; that is to say the number of symbols is rather limited to a limited number of characters, or combination is characters.

Usually people go back 1 page only.

Bug or design flaw. Left -> Right does it.

These paradigms are changing. During a change, there is a learning curve, and mistakes will be made (look at the Enlightenment 17 development).

If you believe that is what this is about please disregard my messages because then our correspondence is utterly useless.

Yes, perfect example. Exactly what I mean. I'm lazy. I don't want to pitch down the volume to some level where others don't hear it. I either have it on or off. The magic keyword here is profiles.

(Don't worry, Maemo 5 will have new interface and if I understood correct also profiles like these )