No one said they would be. No one said the iPhone or G1 would be for everyone. The OP says that the iPhone fits him better than the NIT. I said that the G1 fits me better than the NIT (currently). We each pick the device that best suits us at the time. And we reserve the right to change that choice when our needs change, or the device capabilities change.

If there's a Maemo device that has PIM, SyncML and/or contacts/calendar sync to Google, and FULL cell phone capability; before there's an Android device that has tethering, d-pad, and better battery life; maybe I'll switch back.

But, if Android and Android devices keep making better progress than Maemo and Maemo devices, then why would I switch back? (why would anyone switch back? why would anyone who consider those missing features to be important stay?)

John: You seem to understand my thoughts, and everything you've stated is logical. You need a PIM and don't care about WiFi-VOIP, and are satisfied with the lower resolution screen, and smaller LCD of the G1. My buddy who just bought the G1 is feeling remorse because it wasn't clear to him that he would lose VOIP....something he enjoyed with his previous HTC device.

This thread is valuable to those trying to decide what device may suit their needs better. If it is Personal Media Player, WiFi VOIP communicator, the choice is clear. For business use I agree with your reasons to switch as you have.

BTW- much is mentioned about the N8xx Skype, and N8xx Gizmo (plus Gizmo for those of us fortunate to have GrandCentral's free beta Click2Call), but not so much is discussed regarding other VOIP providers and the N8xx. I have been pleased with WebaCall and the one point one cent a minute (USA) pay as you go on my N800. I use WebaCall if I have to drill into an automated system requiring DTMF because GrandCentral's Click2Call blocks DTMF. I can also use MagicJack on my N800 for this purpose but it is quirky with registration (but it works). Skype is also an option when I require DTMF out, at two point one cents a minute.

The way I use my NiT, the T-Mobile/HTC G1 would not be the device for me at this time.

The things I have in my gadget bag are the N800 (N800=almost exactly a year old now), a ext. Bluetooth GPS rcvr, and either an unlocked AT&T 8525 GSM (w/Schap's ROM) with T-Mobile (Gold Rewards prepaid) or I'll stick my SIM into a small GSM flip phone. I personally don't need the keyboard found on the N810 (nor the int. GPS), I much rather have the two SD card slots and the pop-out camera of the N800 with BT ext. GPS. I know this isn't what other people feel but it suits me extremely well. I made a Mini-B USB to full USB (with strapped OTG Host trigger in hardware) so I can use an ext. mechanical USB keyboard with the N800 but I rarely use it for that. More often I use the USB OTG host adapter for reading and writing to USB flash drives.

As I have stated in other threads here, I am fortunate that most of the places I go to when I am away from home or work all have free WiFi, so I get maximum utility from my NiT this way. If this weren't the case I would have never switched to the T-Mobile Pay As You Go deal. GrandCentral's Click2Call and the abundance of WiFi where I travel with my N800 means I rarely need to use the cellphone, but I bring a cell along anyway.

John: I understand you don't have many people you can communicate with who used Skype, and you don't like the packet switched SIP VOIP. 70-80% of the people I speak to use Skype (so I do Skype to Skype often) and the voice quality is better than SIP, and better than Cell to Cell or Cell to PSTN. I guess I just have things "dialed in" (tweaked) to where the N800 is something I cannot imagine being without in my life.

John: You made a comment above regarding the need for a single contact number, a need that your cellular carrier fulfills. Google's GrandCentral service fulfills that single contact number requirement, and I use that. With GC I have the luxury of answering incoming calls on the N800, or the T-Mobile GSM phone, or any of my laptop or desktop computers regardless of where I am because they all ring simultaneously. If I am at home (or out in any of my many WiFi spots) I use the N800 or a computer to answer the call. If I am between Wifi hotspots I can answer the call on the cheap GSM. Callers only need to try the one number to reach me and I am not paying a cell carrier $80 a month (anymore).

Not being able to easily use the N8xx for portable VOIP means leaving a large portion of the NiT functionality untapped. Not wanting to use the N8xx for VOIP (by choice) means it is easier to part with it.

I definitely agree with that. Informed buyers, who know what they want, make better decisions. For someone who wants/needs/likes VOIP, the NIT is definitely in a better place than the G1 (and, as far as I know, the iPhone/iPod-Touch). I don't pretend that my goals and needs will have universal appeal.

I have several Sunrocket (actually ATS) IP phones at home. Look here:

http://www.atsphone.com/internet/6000/6011s.html

Sunrocket went belly up. Late in 2007 and earlier this year these 6011S phones could be purchased on eBay new in the box for ~ $10 each, sometimes less. I have something like 8 of them. I programmed them to work with Gizmo Project's SIP service instead. (I do not have home PSTN service whatsoever). I use these 6011S phones for incoming (mostly) and out going as follows:

My Nokia N800 is with me at all times, connected to my LAN, and I have DialCentral running on the N800. I simply dial out on the N800 touch screen (DialCentral is awesome), and pick up the ATS 6011S handset to be connected with the party I am calling out to. The call costs nothing per minute, nothing per month, and there are no taxes. I use the N800 as a dial-pad. If people call in on my Grandcentral number it rings in on "everything". When home I pick up the incoming call on one of the three 6011S handsets I have spread around the house and press #1 (or some other choice) on the 6011S handset, or I can answer that incoming call using Gizmo5 on my N800 if I chose (using the touchscreen keypad). I also can answer with the call w/ a GSM cell because that rings at the same time everything else is ringing. For outbound I have the option of using Gizmo's backdoor dialing (0101) to call certain parties directly from my N800 or any of the ATS 6011S handsets. I could set-up one or more 6011S devices to MagicJack or Webacall or I can use a laptop or desktop also.

The great thing about the N800 is I can have it SIMULTANEOUSLY registered to Gizmo5, Skype, Webacall, MagicJack, Tpad, FWD (formally FreeWorldDialup), and more SIP carriers/providers for incoming, and I can chose from several methods at the ready for N800 outgoing. Incoming calls from any of several sources will ring the N800 (all free of charge to me), and when it is SIP to SIP, or Skype to Skype free for both in either direction. This multiple / simultaneous registration to many VOIP providers is equivalent to having a half dozen (or more) ATA adapters all in the one device...my *N800*. I pay almost nothing monthly for all of this flexibility. Even after the free ride with GrandCentral's outbound Click2Call eventually comes to an end, my monthly costs will remain tiny. GC promises the incoming service will remain free even after they switch to paid outbound services. If GC vanishes, I still have IPkall inbound and GroovyTel inbound PSTN numbers people can use. Something new is available now also... inum.

John: I know you said you don't like the packet switched SIP but I sometimes use WebaCall's service (I am not affiliated) and I can't complain about call quality when I am in my wireless LAN or in someone else's wireless LAN that isn't a flaky LAN. More and more PSTN and cell calls use some portion of the Internet to transmit voice data these days, some of your calls are subject to packet switching traffic even if you don't like it or want it.

I use the Free42 RPN scientific calc., KMplayer, MAP, Kagu and so many other things in the N800 daily I cannot imagine being without it.

I have leveraged my N800 heavily. For me a day without it would have a huge void, to others maybe not.