haha...."you're full of xxxx" response...there's a lot of that going around...and not just in this forum.

People like to contradict, compare, challenge...etc others more than anything (or so it seems that way to me).

For me, having used it for 6 months or so, here's what I like about the N810:
1. Keypad/thumbpad (I wouldn't call it a keyboard as I can't touch type on it), I like the tactile feel.
2. Tablet screen. Sometimes, a tap here, a tap there is just easier than using a mouse cursor.
3. Weight, it's fairly decent given its physical profile.
4. Connectivity of bluetooth and wifi.

And here's what I don't like (meaning this could be done better, but not...that's how I see it):
1. It's not marketed as a PMP, yet Nokia came up with a video converter to convert videos for the N810. Great, right? Yes and no. By implementing a feature, or even just a possibility of a feature, people by nature will then have expectation or at least hold this against the amount of money that a particular product is sold at, and subsequently, compare this price with other products that can provide the same feature (let's exclude performance and quality for now). It's basically like opening a can of worms. In regards to PMP, the N810 plays videos, that have been converted, reasonably well. But it doesn't shine here for reasons such as video details, screen brightness, not seamless (i.e. convert? How would you like to convert your MP3s to ATRAC everytime you have a new song that you want to put on your portable music player?).

2. GPS: possibly the GPS that takes the longest time to get a location fix. Again, doesn't do well here. ...It just works...but does not work well. (marketed feature)

3. Internet browsing: It renders most pages....slowly. Works, but not well. (marketed feature) Not to mention that Nokia doesn't seem to be coming up with any browser performance enhancement update (webkit?)

...There's a list of points/features that the N810 can do, from the back of the packaging...and it does do every single one of them: Wifi internet access, Web 2.0 experience (try Facebooking), Adobe Flash 9 plugin (youtube?), Internet calling with a built-in camera (yeah, 5 frames per second?), GPS, music, videos...etc.

It's just not quite there yet to say it's a great all-in-one (it's not marketed to "replace" all those features of other devices...but then there's a question as to why would I buy it over other more capable products...and I suppose more expensive (combined prices) products). So basically, I'm saying, for those of us who purchased an NIT for the written-on-the-box features, we got ourselves a cheaper all-in-one product that does things, but not well. We're cheap. We didn't buy a standalone PMP, a standalone GPS, a standalone Chrome browser with Flash 10 Player....and ultimately settled for a device that is not great at any one particular task.

Exactly. And, just so we're clear, I wasn't trying to minimize your request. I was just attempting to point out, through this limited text medium, how I think some things are useless to attempt.

(Slight rant: why not, everyone else is) I've owned a computer of one kind or another (TI-99, CoCo 2/3, Amiga, etc) for over 20 years. As you can see from the list, most were underdogs. Before the Intarwebs, there were BBSs, and the equivalent to these forums. In every one I've ever been a member of, there has been an "Omega".

Omega, if you're still wasting your time reading this, I want to say that I understand you are frustrated. What I've never understood is why people feel the need to complain to other users, those who have little to do with your plight. It's like walking into a biker bar and yelling "You bunch of pansies!" or something. Actually, I'm sure you started this thread fully intending to generate the responses you got. Well, it was entertaining.

I paid slightly less than $400 for my N800. I've never thought of it as a waste of money. I've been frustrated, sure, but I'm also frustrated with my ATI X1300 video card because Silent Hunter 4 has choppy graphics when I turn everything on.

My point is, if you're going to complain, complain to the ones who took your money. Even if they don't listen, you were no worse off than you are here...with the possible exception of the lasting impression you made with everyone here.
(rant off. Now, I feel much better )

Oops, I replied/edited more in the previous post.

With N97 and the NIT coming later on this year, I still have hope in Nokia that they'll produce a product that's worthy of being a NIT for the 2009 (plus futureproof for at least 18 months).

Hope Nokia will come up with a product that can do well in each of the areas, and earn its love from every single NIT user for one feature or another....and not just a half-*** attempt at throwing multiple features into one package.

You see, "adding features to a product" is relatively a simple task compare to "adding features to a product that can do well in each area". And really, does "throwing features at it", then calling it "one of a kind" really excuses it from "good/great/perfect"? Not in my book. As of now, buying a NIT is similar to asking yourself "one feature plus one feature equals 20% less useful (note "less", not "not")...can I handle the 20% handicap? ", and then telling yourself "Oh come on, get over it, it does "TWO" things"... I may be a perfectionist, but shouldn't we all ask for better things, have higher standards and expectations, as well as challenging the possibilities of what CAN BE done rather than settling for "it will do"?

Registry tweaks to try to make it faster, turn off services I didn't want or didn't use. Editting the boot up screens and the themes (without installing any other software to do so for you which then means more patching of files). As for how it screwed up, Windows update. (but like I pointed out, that's a problem you'll face with almost every system, Apple, Linux, Windows)

There was something else I don't remember though that I didn't like about hacking around with Windows. I think it had to do with the different libraries.

I LOVED bbs's.

something about ascii drawings and ansi animations over a 28.8 modem... ahh.

i ran 'the download spiral' for a year or two in jr high. it was nice because there were a select few who even knew you could use a computer to talk to another computer... now with the interweb, everyone thinks their a 'hacker'. yeesh.

kingka: I can take a generic desktop computer and attempt to install Windows XP. Most of the time, XP will not have any of the drivers, including the network card drivers, so it will be dead in the water until you can find the CD that came with the motherboard or you get the drivers over the Internet on another computer and then bring them over on a CD or USB stick. Ubuntu just works, right off the install CD. I can also install Ubuntu to a USB key with no hassles. Try that with Windows.

Also, I have a working MSN account on my tablet (and ICQ, Google Talk, Gizmo, AIM, link local, etc), integrated into the tablet's built-in chat system. When someone sends me a message, I get a bloop and my LED blinks... Yes you have to hack around a bit, but that's because MSN doesn't come pre-installed. Quite a few people have managed to get it installed without too many headaches.

chatbox: The N8x0 plays MP3s and DivX videos as well as most of the inexpensive video PMPs out there. The difference is that they don't do anything else, while the N8x0s let you download and watch all your favorite Rick Astley videos from YouTube, stream Internet radio, etc, etc.

deeteroderdas: I was a sysop of a C64 BBS in the late 80s. Ah yes, back in the days when almost everyone in the forum was within the same telephone area code.

In 1987, I ran a BBS on a Color Computer 3 (running OS/9, a *nix like operating system, multi-tasking, multi-user, based on OS9000 for Motorola 68000 CPUs). I managed to acquire an expansion chassis (originally for game carts), two RS232 carts, a floppy cart, a hard drive adapter cart (for RLL drives), and a 2400(!) modem. The BBS name was V***GER (from the Star Trek movie) because of the hacked up look of the system. When I switched to an Amiga2000 in 1988, one of the first apps I installed was a BBS package. I was the only non-IBM BBS (out of about a dozen) in San Angelo, TX. That was a blast! I really miss those times (but not the long-distance charges!).

okay. It's completely unfair to bring back fond memories just to improve this thread's rating. I repeat, I will bring back my zx spectrum autodialer to life to teach a lesson everybody who thinks putting 5 stars onto this thread a good idea.

attila77: Don't bring it to life! It may acquire sentience and build a myspace page!

You can build a myspace page even without any sentience.