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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Difficult to tell. But if I leave my NIT tethered to the phone for 3-4 hours it'll have consumed some 700KB-1MB or thereabouts. It runs the following while connected through the phone:
Quick question: how much bandwidth would you say you consume from your NIT in a month? I'm planning in the event that N900 hand-offs are not an issue.
- gmail notifier. Checks every 10 ten minutes. I think this one uses very little bandwidth.
- telepathy (or at least I think that's what runs the chat stuff). It monitors my gtalk etc. friends (online, offline, idle etc.). Not sure how much this uses.
- email program. It checks my work mail over IMAP. This is the old email program btw, not modest. It checks every 15 minutes. I think this one is using most bandwidth. It looks like it uses some 15-30KB just to check if there's anything new. It doesn't use IMAP IDLE or any other efficient protocol. In my opinion it should really be possible to check for new mail with vastly less transfer of data (my inbox is always very small btw).
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by TA-t3
Thanks for that, it was very helpful.
Difficult to tell. But if I leave my NIT tethered to the phone for 3-4 hours it'll have consumed some 700KB-1MB or thereabouts. It runs the following while connected through the phone:
- gmail notifier. Checks every 10 ten minutes. I think this one uses very little bandwidth.
- telepathy (or at least I think that's what runs the chat stuff). It monitors my gtalk etc. friends (online, offline, idle etc.). Not sure how much this uses.
- email program. It checks my work mail over IMAP. This is the old email program btw, not modest. It checks every 15 minutes. I think this one is using most bandwidth. It looks like it uses some 15-30KB just to check if there's anything new. It doesn't use IMAP IDLE or any other efficient protocol. In my opinion it should really be possible to check for new mail with vastly less transfer of data (my inbox is always very small btw).
I'm thinking that I'd love the N900 to have some sort of hand-off capability when switching between WiFi/WiMAX/3G networks, though
I could survive even if this wasn't the case. It would just mean that most operations would be interrupted if I left the house as the network automatically switched. My only concern is VoIP, but I can finish up the convo before changing locations.
If I had to manually switch networks, it would be extremely disappointing. Fewer steps == better.
It would appear that I use quite a bit of bandwidth on my little unit! In the past 8 hours, I've clocked around 100MB (up and down) as displayed by the 'Connection Manager' app. Of course, this mainly includes 2+ hours of VoIP conversations that I had which I only have when I'm at home. On the road, this won't be the case, unless the situations are extreme (vacation, emergency consolation, phone meeting, etc).
So it appears as though I should be able to comfortably use HSPA with my N900 without breaking the bank (even with these ker-azy Canadian prices). It's expensive, but easily justifiable as a business expense.
I'm going to write a small cron'd script (hopefully some form a timer installed) to poll my bandwidth hourly and dump the data in a file so that I can have a definite answer as to the amount of bandwidth I consume. This is the precise reason openness rocks.
YARR!
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2009-04-22
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Here's something that I *know* will be on the N900/Fremantle, that I'm glad will be included. Location awareness.
It would seem that Nokia is taking this idea of apps being location aware very seriously with developer tools to help create these types of apps. In fact, it seems to be a play that they are (at least publicly) alone on. Together with the tight integration of other OVI services, the great hardware (GPS/camera), it would appear that these services will offer a new level of depth for people on the go, or local explorers.
Even the simple act of sending a quick mail/IM with your mapped location, and a picture, can have a tremendous impact in the way we interact. Amazing!
This should provide great incentive for developers to use the OVI store. With the arsenal of devices that Nokia has coming out (including the beloved N900), they are sitting in a pretty competitive position, which will have the competition playing catch-up.
This idea of location awareness is to be talked about in the 2009 Developer Summit in Monaco which is coming up in a week (April 28-29). You can read about all of the talks here: http://www.developersummit2009.com/Agenda.1459.aspx .
I'm curious:
How would you implement a location aware app on the N900 given the hardware/software?
YARR
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Last edited by Capt'n Corrupt; 2009-04-22 at 19:45.
It would seem that Nokia is taking this idea of apps being location aware very seriously with developer tools to help create these types of apps. In fact, it seems to be a play that they are (at least publicly) alone on. Together with the tight integration of other OVI services, the great hardware (GPS/camera), it would appear that these services will offer a new level of depth for people on the go, or local explorers.
Even the simple act of sending a quick mail/IM with your mapped location, and a picture, can have a tremendous impact in the way we interact. Amazing!
This should provide great incentive for developers to use the OVI store. With the arsenal of devices that Nokia has coming out (including the beloved N900), they are sitting in a pretty competitive position, which will have the competition playing catch-up.
This idea of location awareness is to be talked about in the 2009 Developer Summit in Monaco which is coming up in a week (April 28-29). You can read about all of the talks here: http://www.developersummit2009.com/Agenda.1459.aspx .
I'm curious:
How would you implement a location aware app on the N900 given the hardware/software?
YARR
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Capt'n! TETSUO!!!
Last edited by Capt'n Corrupt; 2009-04-22 at 19:45.
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2009-04-22
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I know this probably seems boring, but how about the basics in NATIVE mode:
1. OpenOffice
2. Some kind of HTML/XML/PHP Editor
3. Full-featured SKYPE not the current semi-functional version
4. Decent pure text editor. (not like leafpad or notes(which is html))
5. Image editor (gimp or something)
6. Firefox
7. Torrent Search/Download tool (like transmission but with a search tool)
8. More than one USB port and more than one memory card slot.
9. For travelers--good language translation program (for off-line use)
10. Built in firewall.
11. Make the expansion of applications from internal memory to memory cards seamless.
1. OpenOffice
2. Some kind of HTML/XML/PHP Editor
3. Full-featured SKYPE not the current semi-functional version
4. Decent pure text editor. (not like leafpad or notes(which is html))
5. Image editor (gimp or something)
6. Firefox
7. Torrent Search/Download tool (like transmission but with a search tool)
8. More than one USB port and more than one memory card slot.
9. For travelers--good language translation program (for off-line use)
10. Built in firewall.
11. Make the expansion of applications from internal memory to memory cards seamless.
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by Eric!
I know this probably seems boring, but how about the basics in NATIVE mode:
1. OpenOffice
2. Some kind of HTML/XML/PHP Editor
3. Full-featured SKYPE not the current semi-functional version
4. Decent pure text editor. (not like leafpad or notes(which is html))
5. Image editor (gimp or something)
6. Firefox
7. Torrent Search/Download tool (like transmission but with a search tool)
8. More than one USB port and more than one memory card slot.
9. For travelers--good language translation program (for off-line use)
10. Built in firewall.
11. Make the expansion of applications from internal memory to memory cards seamless.
Full feature Skype is a must!
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by Den in USA
There will likely be *some* version of Skype but with Skype's track record I suggest setting the expectations low. Really low.
Full feature Skype is a must!
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2009-04-22
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You may want to consider RTCOMM and SIP. It's a little harder to find a good provider, but the prices are swell (sometimes lower than skype, depending on the provider), and you needn't worry about compatibility as its standardised (protocol + codecs).
For example, in Toronto vBuzzer offers unlimited local plans for $50CDN/year (~$40US).
You can also buy a device to hook up your phone to your home router and 'share' your number; have your phone ring at home and on your NIT.
Plus if you're a bit of a hacker, there's little end to what you can do with an installation of Asterisk PBX on your home server.
YARR!
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Capt'n Corrupt
For example, in Toronto vBuzzer offers unlimited local plans for $50CDN/year (~$40US).
You can also buy a device to hook up your phone to your home router and 'share' your number; have your phone ring at home and on your NIT.
Plus if you're a bit of a hacker, there's little end to what you can do with an installation of Asterisk PBX on your home server.
YARR!
}:^)~
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Harder to find a provider? . . . How about http://sipphone.com?
You may want to consider RTCOMM and SIP. It's a little harder to find a good provider, but the prices are swell (sometimes lower than skype, depending on the provider), and you needn't worry about compatibility as its standardised (protocol + codecs).
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Sorry just wanted to point out that there is quite a lot of information out there. Sometimes it is easy to overlook an answer to any questions we may have.
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