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#471
Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
I wonder what nokia and the maemo team is thinking of this backlash?
They must have been prepared. They knew what would happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV30Vd_CYqk

We are the ones eagerly waiting for a shiny new toy and being so brutally let down.

So either they don't care (because they are so convinced they're doing the right thing and aren't much interested in us as future customers) or they know more than we do at this point and expect everything to settle down.

Either way, there's no way any internet forum could change their plans.
 

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#472
Originally Posted by Peet View Post
At this point it seems rather unfortunate that the more generic "Internet Tablet (Talk)" community has been branded (co-opted?) with the Nokia-lead Maemo label since the future of the compact tablet format appears to lie somewhere outside Nokia's field of vision.
Screwed by the man.
 
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#473
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
Screwed by the man.
Again!!
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#474
Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
I wonder what nokia and the maemo team is thinking of this backlash?

Combined with this huge thread and the 2 polls the community is clear that we need an internet tablet.

So lets see how commited maemo is to the community.
It'll be like a flea on an elephant!!! At the time of writing this there were nearly 500 posts. Hardly enough to bring Nokia to their knees begging for forgiveness. They will barely notice us. Peter, Quim will, and doubtless feel sympathy, but I seriously doubt that they have enough influence to make a difference.

Nokia are in the business of selling to the mass market. half a millon tablets, or whatever the figure is, is not even on their radar. They will be wanting to shift 10, 50, 100 millon units.

That is the reason why they have (allegedly, no confirmed product yet remember) gone down the smartphone route with Maemo for the next device. Look at the windows phones, android phones, and the iphone - 3.5" are what normal consumers are buying.

Personally, I would love for an updated N800, with a more readable screen, GPS, and a faster CPU, along with better video hardware. Don't expect to see it, as I don't think that Nokia thinks that form factor is mass-marketable as a phone, which is what average consumers want.

I think that a tablet form-factor that is not a phone is a very viable device, especially one with good audio/video capabilities - look at Archos, unfortunately for us Nokia is a phone manufacturer, and that it is what people expect. If the current tablets had a Dell badge, people would ask us what version of Windows it ran, if an Apple badge, what ipod it was etc.

I also think that a bit more work on the current software enviroment is required to bring a 3 year old platform up to date, again easy work for the right people, but Nokia ain't gonna so it as the current tablets do not have enough of a user base for nokia to commit to the work. 3 years ago the tablets looked slick etc, but the competition has moved on

It also seems apparent to me that over the next few years the battle will be Symbian vs Maemo, as Nokia seems to be hedging their bets and releasing devices based on both OSs to see which gathers market shareand community support.
 

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#475
Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
People are willing to have "less than ideal" - of course that's a very subjective statement - features in certain areas if the total offering is very tempting.
But you have created the ideal device for me, the 770. Just give me an update!!!
 

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#476
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
But you have created the ideal device for me, the 770. Just give me an update!!!
Yes, you already have it:, the Nokia N800! So it seems the N800 is still a superior device at least to me.

But we should not judge too quickly because we haven't had an official announcement yet. And maybe the N910 will be a real tablet with a phone slot.....
 
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#477
Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
T-Mobile, at least in the US, doesn't require contracts. You can get any of their phones on Flexpay Month to Month. That means you pay full price for the phone, get almost all of the same plan options that you'd get under contract, but you're not under contract, you're paying "month to month".

As for being locked, after some period (3 months? 6? 9?) you can get your phone unlocked, as well. Assuming you don't find an unlockng service that can do it sooner.
Terrific! If I live in one of about 12 major metro's I get 3g, otherwise I have to pay for 3-9 months of their awesome EDGE service.
</sarcasm>

I would hope to (and gladly) pay about the same as I did for n810, without having to sign up for any carrier's service, contract or not.
 
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#478
Originally Posted by gazza_d View Post
Nokia are in the business of selling to the mass market. half a millon tablets, or whatever the figure is, is not even on their radar. They will be wanting to shift 10, 50, 100 millon units.
Half a million (or a lot more, by other figures we got) for a high end device that got no publicity, was out of stock constantly, was sold in a very limited geographical range (no Asia, no South America), and was only step 3 (or 2) in a 5 steps plan does not sound bad at all.
 

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#479
Originally Posted by Benson View Post
Or, as Tex suggested, maybe an intentional leak. To keep everyone from blowing their 2009 handheld-device budget on a Pre, Android, or next model iPhone.
i think you have nailed the point. ... with palm trying to get the jump on the next iphone nokia had to try to get the jump on both so as to keep in the news cycle.. now there will be news story comparisons between the palm/iphone/&nokia which will get the buzz up and hopefully drive sales

obviously the 900# gorilla is apple and the iphone and everyone is trying to catch up

i do not hold out much hope for palm or nokia

anybody wanna buy a used n810?
 
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#480
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AM I THE ONLY ONE TO THINK THAT THIS PICTURE IS A FAKE ?
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In this case, everybody here would be whining for ... nothing ...
 
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