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infinitespecter is offline infinitespecter
2007-01-10 , 05:19
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If this lives up to it's promises, this will be one hell of a device. I was all set to replace my Treo and 770 this year, and this looks like it will be a good replacement for both. I got somewhat bored, so I decided to see how it stacks up to it's WiFi internet browsing competition. Conclusion is that it is tiny, dwarfed by everything. Not sure how useable it will be on the web, but I will give it a shot. I also added a comparison that includes the Newton.


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NokNok770 is offline NokNok770
2007-01-10 , 05:34
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Wow...I didn't know the n800 was slightly wider but shorter than the 770. I've seen the sony mylo at sony style store, if the screen is even smaller than that...forget it...you're not going to be able to read anything on the iPhone.
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Fidibus is offline Fidibus
2007-01-10 , 06:41
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#13
the chance for nokia and linux is - if they want to win:

Focus on the important things -

- User comfort - no Linux only for Freaks - keep it simple (look iphone)

- more speed (CPU and RAM) - even it costs a little more

- focus up (itunes competition, google calendar, docs, spreadsheets, maps) - application for beginners

- focus up of the 10 most important applications - less is more

Have a look on - http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/

then is clear - which (Linux developer and Nokia) must be made - focus focus focus

I am strained on the future - competition animates the business

Linux and Nokia has all chances - they have 12 months time - use it

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=3613

Fidibus

today, the N800 package comes -
and I am pleased - because I can now use it - and not in 12 months
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Milhouse is offline Milhouse
2007-01-10 , 06:50
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Synaptic have similar mutli-touch technology so it's possible something like it could appear on a future Nokia device, however I'm trying to think when I have ever wanted to use more than one finger on my 770 and I'm really struggling.

It's possible that mutli-touch is no big deal at all, and just the usual hype.

Someone on #maemo who attended CES today (Tuesday) also stated that the iPhone is locked down from a software perspective - there will be extra widgets to install but other than that, that's it you can't change the software. And the widgets can only come from Apple, and not third parties. Frankly, the iPhone is just a very expensive media phone with lots of bling and nothing more.

And it's not likely to be running OS X - most likely it's a stripped down kernel with similar OS X APIs for widgets and maybe a few other things.
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argh is offline argh
2007-01-10 , 15:48
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I like the Nokia 770, and I imagine the 800 is a good improvement. At the same time, the faults of the device keep it from being a blackberry replacement and relegate it as a hobbyist toy for me.

I have been hoping for months that the iPhone would be a viable Blackberry replacement. My fingers are still crossed. Yes, it will be much more locked down than a 770; it's a phone and that is the game. (For that reason, I was *sure* Apple would go the MVNO route! Wrong...)

The size of the device looks perfect, and the resolution is a great improvement over everything by the 770/800. If the touchscreen works as well as my MacBookPro's touchpad, there are plenty of great opportunities with the UI. My only concern is that I haven't seen a landscape version of the keyboard yet... but Apple couldn't possibly have forgotten to provide that, right?!

It is expensive, but not too far out of the park for what it offers.
 
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gnuite is offline gnuite
2007-01-10 , 20:05
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Originally Posted by argh View Post
The size of the device looks perfect, and the resolution is a great improvement over everything by the 770/800.
The resolution is a great improvement? Nokia's 800x480 beats Apple's 320x480. Unless you're talking about that other kind of resolution (pixels per inch), in which case Nokia's 225ppi still beats Apple's 160ppi.

The iPhone is interesting competition, but with such a small screen, it isn't even in the same league as the 770/n800.
 
infinitespecter is offline infinitespecter
2007-01-11 , 00:26
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Originally Posted by gnuite View Post
The resolution is a great improvement? Nokia's 800x480 beats Apple's 320x480. Unless you're talking about that other kind of resolution (pixels per inch), in which case Nokia's 225ppi still beats Apple's 160ppi.

The iPhone is interesting competition, but with such a small screen, it isn't even in the same league as the 770/n800.


Perhaps not directly, but it comes closer then virtually anything else. The 770 platform has a LOT of promise, but as someone mentioned before, it is more of a hobbyists toy then anything else. I love mine to death, but I don't know anyone else who would put up with the instability, lackluster performance, and other issues for it. Well, perhaps WIndows users ( ).
 
Raptor is offline Raptor
2007-01-12 , 07:28
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The resolution independent nature of the interface for the iPhone should make up for the lowered resolution.

However, nothing makes up for this:

“We define everything that is on the phone,” he said. “You don’t want your phone to be like a PC. The last thing you want is to have loaded three apps on your phone and then you go to make a call and it doesn’t work anymore. These are more like iPods than they are like computers.”

No contest. The iPhone will not replace my 770 *or* my Treo.
 
freeman is offline freeman
2007-01-12 , 10:11
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Originally Posted by gnuite View Post
The resolution is a great improvement? Nokia's 800x480 beats Apple's 320x480. Unless you're talking about that other kind of resolution (pixels per inch), in which case Nokia's 225ppi still beats Apple's 160ppi.

The iPhone is interesting competition, but with such a small screen, it isn't even in the same league as the 770/n800.
You forgot the camera resolution, in which case Apple beat Nokia. I'm no Apple fan boy, I just call it like is. Be fair, just because we are geeks doesn't mean we have to play favorite toward linux.
 
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uczmeg is offline uczmeg
2007-01-12 , 17:12
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Originally Posted by freeman View Post
You forgot the camera resolution, in which case Apple beat Nokia. I'm no Apple fan boy, I just call it like is. Be fair, just because we are geeks doesn't mean we have to play favorite toward linux.
I'm dissapointed with the camera on the iPhone (I don't even count the N800's camera as a camera. It's a web cam, nothing more).

They wanted an all in one device, well a 2 mega pixel camera isn't going to replace anyone's digital camera and the better camera phones are all on 3 mega pixels+ now. Such a waste.
 
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