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2009-09-06 , 19:17
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#31
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i keep thinking that nokia is making a mistake not launching a tablet next to the N900, or just a N900 minus the mobile radio.
Maybe they are launching, but they like the suspense. Or reading the speculation threads on t.m.o.
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Maybe they are launching, but they like the suspense. Or reading the speculation threads on t.m.o.
fat chance, i suspect they have seen their voip push (they have had sip ability built into symbian phones for a while now) get stonewalled by the carriers, and so need products that can do both mobile and wifi for a while...
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This is followed up with a mysterious comment from Dr. Jaaksi via his twitter account

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Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
The biggest thing I took from Nokia World, which I covered in my last article on this whole Maemo/Symbian thing, was the Ovi SDK. We won't have Maemo developers and Symbian developers in the case of Nokia devices. We'll have Ovi developers, and the apps will be adaptable for all Symbian AND Maemo devices.

I think that itself will put Nokia in the driver's seat for becoming a standard platform. If Maemo or even Symbian^4 netbooks make it on the scene, or Nokia produces a dual boot Maemo/Symbian smart tablet, Nokia is poised to be the Microsoft of the next 20 years.
One fix to your final statement. Nokia isn't looking to become the next MS, they are looking to be more RedHat.
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
This is followed up with a mysterious comment from Dr. Jaaksi via his twitter account

http://twitter.com/jaaksi
The article he links makes many assertions, the last being: "Could it be that Nokia was taken completely by surprise by the reception N900 got? And now, like that dear caught in the headlights. watches the oncoming demand freight train, unsure which way to move?"
 

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Originally Posted by jandmdickerson View Post
The article he links makes many assertions, the last being: "Could it be that Nokia was taken completely by surprise by the reception N900 got? And now, like that dear caught in the headlights. watches the oncoming demand freight train, unsure which way to move?"
His comment is more deflection than anything else. There are many inside of Nokia who knew very well that the N900 and Maemo 5 would be the ideal sell for them. The problem comes with those who are also inside that have strong ties to Symbian... they still have trouble navigating those waters.
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Originally Posted by jsa View Post
It's also pretty clear from that interview that Maemo is still much work in progress and hasn't reached feature parity with Symbian devices yet while the UI is miles ahead. These things are something former Symbian users notice and that might be one reason they're trying to be modest about it(In addition to the general Finnish mentality )
Actually, yes, Symbian has all kind of little small features you'd miss in Maemo or some other smartphone OS.

Taking a look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Harmattan

UI Specification General 3866 Please, add "last used special characters" palette
Utilities Clock 472 Support clock synchronization by NTP
Utilities Clock 2750 Support clock synchronization by GPS
These 3 features are relatively simple under the hood, yet exist in Symbian.

Why would one downplay Symbian then? This kind of feature is solid in Symbian. It had years of development. Ari also said he wanted to talk about Maemo, not Symbian.

OTOH as for downplaying own product by announcing the next one already (_software_ wise, after which the hardware is build). He did not announce ath else planned hardware wise. He could have said RX-71. He said _nothing_ else was planned for now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
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In one of Eldar's first statements about the N900 he wrote something like "... it won't be a hit because it misses certain features...". This is exactly it. It will attract people who fall for eye candy, but it needs at least feature parity with my 2 year old S60 phone until it should be considered the next big thing inside Nokia.
Seems more you want denote the advantages of Maemo 5 with a flamebait comment like "it will attract people who fall for eye candy" just because you're not getting your N800 sequel for stylus thats really telling. truelly an insult to anyone who recently joined t.m.o or who is interested in Maemo 5.

Eye candy, you say. I don't see much Compiz stuff, or silly games. N900/Maemo 5 can do things your 2 year old S60 phone cannot do. It is a big math of + and - and some things your current device can do better, others not. Ofcourse it misses certain features. (It'd be nice to note which btw.)
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
This is followed up with a mysterious comment from Dr. Jaaksi via his twitter account

http://twitter.com/jaaksi
Oh, he's getting worse than I ever was.
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
This is followed up with a mysterious comment from Dr. Jaaksi via his twitter account

http://twitter.com/jaaksi
Oh interesting. I wasn't hijacking the thread after all. He's saying what I thought he was saying. Well, saying it without actually saying it. Because you don't get to be VP of Nokia by actually saying those things.
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