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2009-09-24 , 11:21
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#131
Originally Posted by range View Post
Nokia's shop in DE still quotes 12th of October (depending on product availability ...)
This is what Nokia.de says:
Bei Vorbestellung ist eine Anlieferung voraussichtlich ab dem 12. Oktober 2009 möglich. Dies ist abhängig von der gewählten Versandart und Produkt-Verfügbarkeit. (Source)
Expected. I'm sure you cannot claim rights on such. If you want to cancel your pre-order I guess you can do that, but I don't know consumer law on that regard well.

Originally Posted by jaark View Post
IIRC, they had supply problems with the N770. Although I pre-ordered direct from Nokia, I did so slightly too late as I ended up getting one from some second manufacturing run and did not get mine until a few weeks after the initial release
That device was called Nokia 770, not Nokia N770. The General taught me that

Originally Posted by buru View Post
P.S. I read Mobile-Review regularly and I've never heard anti-Nokia bias from Eldar Murtazin (contrary to that, he seems to be a bit too pro-Nokia). Thus, I think either it's the objective state of affairs or some kind of Nokia's own play to frighten non-geeks from the product.
Possibly. A mature product after geeks finished the sharp edges and after important community supported software is available and stable benefits non-technical end users. For example, Telepathy Haze (IM protocols such as MSN for Telepathy) is something many non-technical end users will want to install right away.
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#132
Originally Posted by buru View Post
@zerojay the device is not released yet, so final software does not exists
Because of the lead time necessary for production, packaging and distribution, IF the N900 is to be released in mid-October the firmware very likely has been finalized. Serious problems found can be corrected with an OTA update, as soon as a new N900 is activated if necessary.

That doesn't mean Eldar HAS finalized firmware OR hardware, or even if he does have the final firmware that his early hardware runs it properly. IOW, his stability problems could be due to a lot of factors that users of the actual released product won't have.

I'm not a Nokia veteran, but seems like most companies Nokia is perfectly capable of large screw-ups (N97?) so anything can happen. But from all I've seen and read about the N900, and from years of running various Linux distros, I'd be very surprised if the N900 had major stability issues. If so, I'm confident they'll be quickly fixed.

I'm not worried because of what one questionable Russian says.
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2009-09-24 , 11:36
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I do trust Michal Jerz of my-symbian quite a lot, loads of experience and loads of reviews done by him over the years and i asked him if he had crashes or stability issues with his prototype that he has now for 3 weeks or so, this was his response:

http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopi...=368144#368144
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#134
Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
That device was called Nokia 770, not Nokia N770. The General taught me that
It's at homes tucked away in it's little cloth bag.

Sir! Sorry, sir. Won't happen again! Sah!

/me salutes & knocks self out.

Conversely, I'm in the habit of calling my N810 just 810.
 
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#135
Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
Because of the lead time necessary for production, packaging and distribution, IF the N900 is to be released in mid-October the firmware very likely has been finalized.
The firmware is not finalized yet. Eldar's firmware is so old it has cobwebs.
 

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#136
Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing View Post
And yes, what we announced in the Nokia N900 press release is still the plan, no change: "The Nokia N900 will be available in select markets from October 2009..."
OK my misinterpretation, I assumed (clearly wrongly) that this meant that it would be available IN OCTOBER rather than FROM....

Apologies again and thanks for clearing this up.

Extra time means I can spend the cash on fixing my PC, and get some dev boards and have enough when the n900 comes to release ;-)
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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
The firmware is not finalized yet. Eldar's firmware is so old it has cobwebs.
I've been wondering this for a while. He really insists he has up-to-date software loaded and access to updates. How do you and others know he really doesn't when he hasn't disclosed what version he's running? Now I don't know why anyone won't tell him what the latest version is so he can compare with his own, and stop claiming he has the latest if he doesn't? Obviously he at least genuinely believes it's up-to-date because I don't see any reason why he would lie about it.

And if we talk about the first-look preview article, while I don't think it was not fair to release it so early, he did clearly say it's not based on the final software.

I read the Maemo 5 review(translated from Russian to English so not as accurate as I would've liked) and while it mentioned the crashing, it wasn't the focus. The downsides he mentioned were also nothing new, they have come up on this forum too(the lack of portrait mode, MMS etc.) and I found the overall tone positive.
 
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Originally Posted by jsa View Post
I've been wondering this for a while. He really insists he has up-to-date software loaded and access to updates. How do you and others know he really doesn't when he hasn't disclosed what version he's running? Now I don't know why anyone won't tell him what the latest version is so he can compare with his own, and stop claiming he has the latest if he doesn't? Obviously he at least genuinely believes it's up-to-date because I don't see any reason why he would lie about it.
34-14, I believe he's said.
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#139
Originally Posted by jsa View Post
I've been wondering this for a while. He really insists he has up-to-date software loaded and access to updates. How do you and others know he really doesn't when he hasn't disclosed what version he's running?
Protip: http://www.eastleigh.gov.uk/meetings...2009&ACT=Later
 

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
34-14, I believe he's said.
Yup. Quote #1, quote #2...
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