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#71
You can resolve DUPLICATE when there is a Brainstorm proposal open, and only in that case. Besides, Bugzilla ask you for a bug number to resolve that way, so you would neet to hack bugzilla. Not nice.

But I agree with the "rudeness" of the INVALID resolution and I have spent a couple of lines of explanation in the few occasions that I have resolved a Brainstorm case that way.

I wouldn't mind a BRAINSTORM resolution.
 

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Originally Posted by timsamoff View Post
One idea might be to allow people to post "issues" to Bugzilla whether they are bugs or enhancements. Then, if an easy fix or patch isn't available at the time of posting, link the bug report to Brainstorm, where people can hash out ideas and Solutions. Then, when a certain Soultion has garnered enough support, it can be copy/pasted to the original bug report, with a link back to the popular solution.
While the idea is nice in theory, in practice it has its problems.

Bugs are bugs, and the ones that must be addressed by the Maemo team can be cloned to our internal bugzilla, where they can be handled just like the rest of bugs detected in our internal testing.

But bug reports containing actual features can't follow the same ath because they will be quickly resolved as INVALID in the internal bugzilla, no matter how rude that is and most probably before catching the attention of anybody involved in roadmapping and planning of new features.

Besides, while most bugs in the pre-installed software must be fixed by the Maemo team or surrounding, the implementation of new features can be done many times by others as well.

It's actually a quite different game.
 

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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
In my experience with other projects (e.g. MythTV) people don't like their bugs marked as invalid - it gives off a rather 'rude' feeling.
In my time of working with Bugzilla and working with training newbies to use it, you quickly see a pattern.

Newbie files bug, programmer closes as invalid, newbie has his feelings hurt.

This *only* happens the very first time though. Once his/her's cherry's been popped so to speak, they stop taking it so personally. The problem is just that the person is new to the bug reporting workflow.

INVALID is fine as it is. Just make sure people understand not to get too emo over it.
 

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I like the idea of the BRAINSTORM resolution with a link to the brainstorm idea.

The final solution may be attached to bugzilla for completeness once the brainstorm idea has been discussed/voted/finalized in Brainstorm.
 

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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Bugzilla ask you for a bug number to resolve that way, so you would neet to hack bugzilla.
Yeah, that's why I suggested using a dummy bug to collect the duplications. It would also provide an easy way to quickly find all enhancements moved to brainstorm.

I wouldn't mind a BRAINSTORM resolution.
That sounds even better if it's not too much work to implement.
 
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
That sounds even better if it's not too much work to implement.
If Maemo is using a somewhat recent version of Bugzilla (v3.0.0 or better), adding a resolution is a piece of cake.
 
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A BRAINSTORM resolution (with a URL somewhere, maybe in the comments) sounds great to me, if that can be achieved (I don't really know Bugzilla).
 
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Question: What do we do with a Brainstorm idea/solution when it's been fulfilled?
 

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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
They are moved to Implemented Ideas
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...eas/fremantle/
Who do we push to make that happen? I don't see anything that allows me, the creator of a brainstorm idea/solution, to put it into Implemented Ideas.
 
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