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Originally Posted by Kooby
I'm exactly the opposite.
This is a deal breaker for me and would prevent me from buying this phone. The iPhone people corrected this after 3 years and I wouldn't want to buy a N900 to wait 3 years for MMS. Sure, it is a stone age feature but I personally don't want to email somebody a photo when I can send it directly via MMS. I believe I am not alone in saying this.
MMS might be useful sometimes, when dealing with the ignorant and/or people whose devices are from the stone age (but, even then, I prefer to tell people "I can't MMS, send it to my email address") ... but, even just looking at what MMS does, it's a stupid-person's implementation of email (the stupid-person being the one who designed it, not you for using it). Recipients, including email addresses? check. Subject line? check. Message body + media attachments? check. MMS == email designed by idiots.
Further, for any sort of attachment or media file, I want to have it stored somewhere more permanent, useful, and scalable than my handheld (with the option to download/cache it on my handheld).
All of that says to me "email it to me, don't MMS it to me".
MMS isn't just blemish on the evolution of data protocols, it's redundant to email, and email serves that function better. Any device which simply avoids implementing MMS and says "use email instead" is a device that deserves my kudos.
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Originally Posted by Hogwash
Well, XMPP for SMS.
You're kidding me, right? XMPP? That's where maemo should be headed.
But, for MMS, use SMTP.
That's where _all_ devices should be headed. Not just Maemo devices.
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2009-10-05
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this is not about reaching your fellow geek with 5+ gmail accounts, its about reaching your parents, grandparents and other relatives that may be rocking a cheap featurephone on plan and whos eyes glaze over when one start to talk xmpp, smtp, imap, pop3 and all the rest.
all they know is that a text ( not even sms in most english speaking parts of the world) or photo can be sendt to their contacts phone number with little effort on their part...
even apple, whos marketing seems able to convince people to adopt just about any idea of theirs, had to give up and implement mms...
all they know is that a text ( not even sms in most english speaking parts of the world) or photo can be sendt to their contacts phone number with little effort on their part...
even apple, whos marketing seems able to convince people to adopt just about any idea of theirs, had to give up and implement mms...
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2009-10-05
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And copy and paste =P
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-10-05
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Originally Posted by tso
Which can be sent to their carrier-provided email account (last I checked, they all do that), and their phone's built-in apps can leverage that. This (SMTP/POP/IMAP) doesn't have to be any more visible to the luddites than the MMS protocol is. But the MMS based application can easily be modified to use SMTP and POP or IMAP instead of the MMS protocol.
all they know is that a text ( not even sms in most english speaking parts of the world) or photo can be sendt to their contacts phone number with little effort on their part...
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by frals
Actually the least you could do if you care about MMS yes/no is to vote the options at http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/mms_support/
About MMS; feel free to help the community effort get the ball rolling on this, we have a thread about it at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32129
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by qgil
Well, you can't actually vote yes/no for the idea itself, just the proposed solutions.
Actually the least you could do if you care about MMS yes/no is to vote the options at http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/mms_support/
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
My carrier doesn't supply an e-mail acc for my phonenumber.
Which can be sent to their carrier-provided email account (last I checked, they all do that), and their phone's built-in apps can leverage that.
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
fMMS - MMS for your N900
fAPN - GUI for adding a new GPRS APN
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
you named a few points that are shared between MMS and mail and say MMS is designed by idiots? i'm not getting it.
Recipients, including email addresses? check. Subject line? check. Message body + media attachments? check. MMS == email designed by idiots.
also, what really annoys me is this elitist attitude of "i don't use it, so it has to be crap". i don't use tampons, lipstick or high heels, still i don't say it's crap and should no longer be produced.
many of us still have contact with real people in a non-geek world. it doesn't matter at all how you could solve the typical MMS use cases in a Maemo-to-Maemo scenario. It matters how you to it in real life, Maemo to {any phone here} or the other way round.
This forum is full of valid, real-life use cases. Saying how you are all better than the rest of us because you use only few technologies instead of a broad variety doesn't help anyone.
And I believe I already said they should try to do just that with Ovi.