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2009-10-14
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Originally Posted by Nelson L. Squeeko
They do serve a purpose. Milking cash from the strategically dumbed down ringtone generation.
Bubble wrap popping? Pouring beer out of a pitcher? Those apps are good as a one-off application, but really serves no purpose.
Either through price or through ads.
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2009-10-14
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Originally Posted by pycage
These apps are IMHO partially freeware. So it is entertainment, like youtube, facebook or porn, whereas the purpose is always questionable.
They do serve a purpose. Milking cash from the strategically dumbed down ringtone generation.
Either through price or through ads.
Sure, there are some excellent applications for the iPhone/Android, but you can't look at those numbers for comparison of a quality experience.
And yes, I wont even use more than ten apps regularly, but it must be my decision to choose if I wanna do something useful or pour beer from a pitcher.
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2009-11-08
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110% echo the replies here. Here is my background:
* Current iPhone 3G user who is hating the locked environments (even jailbroken it is a mess)
* User of the N770 and N800 pads since they came out, though not anymore.
* Android-envy
Nothing would scream "my perfect device" like a Maemo phone that had API-level Android capabilities (I don't care about having the Android desktop nor the dialer/etc ... I just want apps) AND a working J2ME compatibility story (no Swing == not working with a ton of J2ME apps ... I "get" why no Swing, and I prefer SWT, but it hamstrings the java story).
One or the other will probably sway me to stick with Maemo. Neither means I will seriously evaluate the phone but likely will return it. I'm no longer an embedded Linux professional (I worked on it professionally for a few years back when the 770 first came out) so I have very little -work- justification for spending that much time fiddling around with my phone. I want the -ability- but I also want the convenience of a large base of pre-made apps.
Again ... most of the folks I read about don't care that this isn't a true native Android phone ... we just want access to apps. Even if we can't get on the Google app store it would be a huge benefit to be able to run those apps. Unless I am mistaken, Google apps are not limited to -only- going through the Google store. Similarly we don't want a Java phone ... just a Linux phone that can run J2ME apps.
I almost hopped on the OpenMoko bandwagon a couple of years ago but in the end the iPhone's apps won out. The N900 is closer-enough that I'm considering a switch. But I'm also about 50/50 on going with a Droid phone instead for now.
* Current iPhone 3G user who is hating the locked environments (even jailbroken it is a mess)
* User of the N770 and N800 pads since they came out, though not anymore.
* Android-envy
Nothing would scream "my perfect device" like a Maemo phone that had API-level Android capabilities (I don't care about having the Android desktop nor the dialer/etc ... I just want apps) AND a working J2ME compatibility story (no Swing == not working with a ton of J2ME apps ... I "get" why no Swing, and I prefer SWT, but it hamstrings the java story).
One or the other will probably sway me to stick with Maemo. Neither means I will seriously evaluate the phone but likely will return it. I'm no longer an embedded Linux professional (I worked on it professionally for a few years back when the 770 first came out) so I have very little -work- justification for spending that much time fiddling around with my phone. I want the -ability- but I also want the convenience of a large base of pre-made apps.
Again ... most of the folks I read about don't care that this isn't a true native Android phone ... we just want access to apps. Even if we can't get on the Google app store it would be a huge benefit to be able to run those apps. Unless I am mistaken, Google apps are not limited to -only- going through the Google store. Similarly we don't want a Java phone ... just a Linux phone that can run J2ME apps.
I almost hopped on the OpenMoko bandwagon a couple of years ago but in the end the iPhone's apps won out. The N900 is closer-enough that I'm considering a switch. But I'm also about 50/50 on going with a Droid phone instead for now.
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2009-11-08
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Originally Posted by jahf
The problem I see here is that you think that Android is an any way like J2ME. Its not - what it is is a customized JRE with a VERY cutdown java base. There are some very good descriptions on this website of the problems with Android,
110% echo the replies here. Here is my background:
* Current iPhone 3G user who is hating the locked environments (even jailbroken it is a mess)
* User of the N770 and N800 pads since they came out, though not anymore.
* Android-envy
Nothing would scream "my perfect device" like a Maemo phone that had API-level Android capabilities (I don't care about having the Android desktop nor the dialer/etc ... I just want apps) AND a working J2ME compatibility story (no Swing == not working with a ton of J2ME apps ... I "get" why no Swing, and I prefer SWT, but it hamstrings the java story).
One or the other will probably sway me to stick with Maemo. Neither means I will seriously evaluate the phone but likely will return it. I'm no longer an embedded Linux professional (I worked on it professionally for a few years back when the 770 first came out) so I have very little -work- justification for spending that much time fiddling around with my phone. I want the -ability- but I also want the convenience of a large base of pre-made apps.
Again ... most of the folks I read about don't care that this isn't a true native Android phone ... we just want access to apps. Even if we can't get on the Google app store it would be a huge benefit to be able to run those apps. Unless I am mistaken, Google apps are not limited to -only- going through the Google store. Similarly we don't want a Java phone ... just a Linux phone that can run J2ME apps.
I almost hopped on the OpenMoko bandwagon a couple of years ago but in the end the iPhone's apps won out. The N900 is closer-enough that I'm considering a switch. But I'm also about 50/50 on going with a Droid phone instead for now.
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2009-11-09
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Originally Posted by jahf
If you are interested in:
Nothing would scream "my perfect device" like a Maemo phone that had API-level Android capabilities (I don't care about having the Android desktop nor the dialer/etc ... I just want apps) AND a working J2ME compatibility story (no Swing == not working with a ton of J2ME apps ... I "get" why no Swing, and I prefer SWT, but it hamstrings the java story).
One or the other will probably sway me to stick with Maemo. Neither means I will seriously evaluate the phone but likely will return it. I'm no longer an embedded Linux professional (I worked on it professionally for a few years back when the 770 first came out) so I have very little -work- justification for spending that much time fiddling around with my phone. I want the -ability- but I also want the convenience of a large base of pre-made apps.
Again ... most of the folks I read about don't care that this isn't a true native Android phone ... we just want access to apps. Even if we can't get on the Google app store it would be a huge benefit to be able to run those apps. Unless I am mistaken, Google apps are not limited to -only- going through the Google store. Similarly we don't want a Java phone ... just a Linux phone that can run J2ME apps.
I almost hopped on the OpenMoko bandwagon a couple of years ago but in the end the iPhone's apps won out. The N900 is closer-enough that I'm considering a switch. But I'm also about 50/50 on going with a Droid phone instead for now.
Java SE on Maemo 5
Java ME on Maemo 5
Dalvik on Maemo 5
See the thread Java on Maemo 5 where community has looked into the options.
The result of this is:
Current state of affairs written on Java entry on Maemo wiki.
The following 2 Brainstorm entries:
Please feel free to contribute! Vote, provide proposals, update current state of affairs, etc.
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2009-11-09
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Should be possible with linux.
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2009-11-11
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Originally Posted by Bratag
Actually no, I don't
The problem I see here is that you think that Android is an any way like J2ME.
I know I'm making 2 different requests. Both address a different segment of the "I want apps" need. I'm familiar with both markets ... either of which would be extremely valuable for different things.
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2009-11-11
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#19
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Originally Posted by osfight.de
unfortunately, that project seems to be dead.
High five for Android execution environment!
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2009-11-24
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Originally Posted by titan
Too bad. What do you think about this Project: http://sandohq.com/index.php
unfortunately, that project seems to be dead.
Bubble wrap popping? Pouring beer out of a pitcher? Those apps are good as a one-off application, but really serves no purpose. Sure, there are some excellent applications for the iPhone/Android, but you can't look at those numbers for comparison of a quality experience.