Originally Posted by Nathan

Off of my list (any any other list) do we have a list of those who actually got devices. It might make it easier to see which projects need to be put on the waiting list.

Originally Posted by qgil

At this point it is fairly complicated to know which projects have been covered via pre-Summit loaned devices + Summit loaned devices + happy with the device discount.

Nathan, you are a good example of a developer with a concrete project that hasn't been covered in these three actions and are claiming yourself as a candidate for a loaned device if there is one available. Why don't you start a wiki page adding yourself to the top? Then let's wait for a second developer self-proposed, and we can start the prioritization.

Originally Posted by bergie

I just got an idea: how about making it possible to donate some of your karma to others? If you are an active contributing member of the community you're likely to have a lot of it, and probably can identify promising new community members who'd deserve to have more.

That way we could still utilize karma for things like developer device program and travel sponsorship eligibility, but make them also accessible to new members of our community.

Originally Posted by Jaffa

This is what I imagined the thumbs-up/down on a profile would do. If a person with lots of karma gives you a thumbs-up, you get more karma than if someone with little karma gives you a thumbs-up. However, lots of low level users giving you a thumbs-up would equate with a single mid-level person.

Originally Posted by Jaffa

[Which reminds me, if there's more midgard work to be done, karma calculations need a re-architect so that everything isn't scanned every update, so that a) there won't be sudden shifts if one source is down; b) updates are more timely and c) karma decay can be implemented]

Originally Posted by Texrat

Heh... some of us kicked that idea around half-jokingly and the thought of karma black markets was cool and scary...

Originally Posted by bergie

Well, think about it. A group of developers where nobody has individually enough karma to qualify for the developer device program could pool their karma points to one account and get a device to hack with. Being able to trade karma opens interesting possibilities indeed...

Originally Posted by rcadden

In keeping with the community spirit, should we setup a way for people to donate their discount code to a developer who needs it?

I certainly don't mean to be ungrateful for the discount, but I got one to review till January, and with things being where they are in my life, I'm not going to be able to spend even the discounted amount, so there's no reason it should go to waste, and I would imagine there are at least a few others in my same situation. How should we handle that?

Originally Posted by Nathan

As you requested: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Developer_Device_Queue

Do you think that has enough information; or is their something else that would be helpful to the process for the Nokia and the Council?

Originally Posted by penguinbait

While this has been discussed about future programs it is not something that can be done this time. Nokia has no mechanism to handle this at this time. This idea has been conveyed to the proper people, its just not gonna happen this time. Perhaps next time. I think the fair thing would be to either deny yourself the code and let Nokia give it to someone else (based on Karma), or like in the past, make people actually apply for it if they would like to participate in the program.

As for what to do with your discount, use it or don't, please don't post Hey who wants my discount, or use it as a bargaining chip. I personally would keep any plans other than to use your discount for you, to yourself.