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#51
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
.... <snipage> ...

Ovi is a bigger problem because people will think that they're buying a phone with zero apps. Consumers tend to not do little things like research. So they can't get Tetris... or they can't get Brightkite, or they can't send a message to another phone without using e-mail... sounds like the iPhone in its first outing. Boring as hell.

Ovi is a problem because it just doesn't have the apps that are quickly compelling... yet. And I'm tired of waiting with an product in my hand and no apps to do what I really want.
I agree 110% with that^. I was hoping that this was the cause of the delay. I was thinkin' maybe some learned, higher up, Nokia Exec realized this and said wait until OVI is ready for the N900.

Apparently this was not the case. I don't even think you can select the N900 as your device @ OVI on-line.

I guess Nokia believes that support for one of the most expensive phones available should come from a bunch of anonymous "community" members.

They may feel the N900 is not ready for prime time or as Ari Jaaksi recently said Maemo5 is "dangerous" like an exotic sports car is and implied it would have a cult following (< huge paraphrase that there is. )
The message that will be sent if OVI stays in this condition is that Nokia does not provide support for the N900. This could affect consumer perception for a long time and have a negative effect on acceptance and sales of future devices. Even when those devices do have full support.
 

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#52
Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
I agree 110% with that^. I was hoping that this was the cause of the delay. I was thinkin' maybe some learned, higher up, Nokia Exec realized this and said wait until OVI is ready for the N900.

Apparently this was not the case. I don't even think you can select the N900 as your device @ OVI on-line.

I guess Nokia believes that support for one of the most expensive phones available should come from a bunch of anonymous "community" members.

They may feel the N900 is not ready for prime time or as Ari Jaaksi recently said Maemo5 is "dangerous" like an exotic sports car is and implied it would have a cult following (< huge paraphrase that there is. )

The message that will be sent if OVI stays in this condition is that Nokia does not provide support for the N900. This could affect consumer perception for a long time and have a negative effect on acceptance and sales of future devices. Even when those devices do have full support.
As of today, it's not on the list of Nokia's phones (and it's not just how new it is, since the Mini is on the list). The more I see how Nokia has handled the launch, the feature set, and the app store, the more I think that Nokia wants the N900 to be a cult offering. If I were a developer, that would be fine, but, as a user, it makes me a bit more cautious.
 
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#53
Originally Posted by gecebekcisi View Post
4. Waste of chance where people don't have access to those advanced features or don't know hot to use them; but MMS is as common and intuitive as SMS is.
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Abandoning MMS for net based services is kinda like abandoning SMS for IM services.
MMS is in no way comparable to SMS.

It costs me a few (euro)cents to send an SMS, and nothing to receive it.

It would cost me a lot more to send a MMS. And equally so for receiving.
I'm not interested in MMS at all. As for sharing the moment, I'll wait until I have a chance to get online with WLAN or on a real computer to check out these way better pictures on flickr, picasa, facebook, whatever you wish rather than spend a lot of money on pixelized faces, thank you.

That's why MMS, at least in Europe, isn't even known by most people.
 
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Originally Posted by mechanix View Post
That's why MMS, at least in Europe, isn't even known by most people.
That's why if I want to know the future of the automobile, I'll ask a European but if I want to know the future of the cellphone I'll ask a Japanese teenager.

(I can't really think of what Americans would be expert in; the future of processed food maybe?)
 
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
I can't really think of what Americans would be expert in; the future of processed food maybe?
You damn right!!
 
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#56
Overshadowed by Motorola/Verizon Droid. LOL. In the USA perhaps (article seems to be written for US public). When I saw the provided contracts for this thing... crazy.
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#57
A lot of people mention the cost of MMS, but at least for the American carriers I'm familiar with, MMS comes out of the same bucket as SMS, so if you have a text messaging plan, there's no extra cost unlike if you wanted to have email/internet access. The average consumer is much more likely to spring for an SMS add-on plan (cheap and extremely commonly used) than a data plan (tends to be expensive and not so ubiquitous), so to quickly send pictures using MMS just makes sense for them.

About some people not being able to receive those messages: nearly every dumbphone and featurephone is MMS-capable, no matter how cheap and aged it might be. The same is not true for email.
 
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Originally Posted by mechanix View Post
MMS is in no way comparable to SMS.
Yes it is. In the eyes of many people, MMS is 'SMS with pictures'. It is presented in the same way and in the same interface as SMS on almost every phone that supports MMS.
In terms of end result (instant short messaging) and interface, they are directly comparable. The huge technical differences are completely hidden from the user.

It costs me a few (euro)cents to send an SMS, and nothing to receive it.
It would cost me a few pence (about twice as much as an SMS) to send an MMS, if they weren't covered in my calling plan. It costs me nothing to receive one.

That's why MMS, at least in Europe, isn't even known by most people.
I thought that the mainland Europe networks wree generally more advanced and supportive than the UK ones are, perhaps I was mistaken. Almost everyone I know has sent and/or received MMS
 
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Originally Posted by jaark View Post
I thought that the mainland Europe networks wree generally more advanced and supportive than the UK ones are, perhaps I was mistaken. Almost everyone I know has sent and/or received MMS
More advanced != MMS support.
 
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Originally Posted by jaark View Post
Almost everyone I know has sent and/or received MMS
everyone i know uses it as well.
don't know why mechanix claimed that most people in europe don't even know what it is, but he's wrong.

@bemymonkey
EVERY carrier in europe that i know of has MMS support.
 
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