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Where did you hear that Chrome OS uses technologies such as GTK and clutter? I was under the impression that it uses a new windowing system, which is not even X11 based, so it won't be possible to run existing X11 applications. From what I know, Chrome OS, although partly open source (with a license that has yet to be specified) is a "proprietary" OS which is runs on a Linux kernel but uses very little of the Linux user space technologies (just like Android).
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by pinsh
It's in a German language article
Where did you hear that Chrome OS uses technologies such as GTK and clutter?
http://derstandard.at/1256745255762/...u-Moblin-GNOME
They claim they got the info from looking at the source code.
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I think the thing with intel and nokia is more about hardware than software. Intel probably wants to be able to put 3g or 4g radio processing stuff on chip and nokia has IP for that and who knows what nokia gets in return, maybe dibs on first run of these new processors.
Intel is getting it handed to them with all of the chips used in iphone,droid,n900 etc. they want to get into that market bad and the atom ain't going to get them there yet, so they are probably re-engineering something.
I would bet sometime next year Nokia will debut a phone(regardless of OS) with an intel chip in it.
Intel is getting it handed to them with all of the chips used in iphone,droid,n900 etc. they want to get into that market bad and the atom ain't going to get them there yet, so they are probably re-engineering something.
I would bet sometime next year Nokia will debut a phone(regardless of OS) with an intel chip in it.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by quipper8
I also got the impression that it was more about hardware than software. I think that the OS references are likely about stuff like Intel's and Nokia's oFono project for GSM telephony in Linux.
I think the thing with intel and nokia is more about hardware than software. Intel probably wants to be able to put 3g or 4g radio processing stuff on chip and nokia has IP for that and who knows what nokia gets in return, maybe dibs on first run of these new processors.
Intel is getting it handed to them with all of the chips used in iphone,droid,n900 etc. they want to get into that market bad and the atom ain't going to get them there yet, so they are probably re-engineering something.
I would bet sometime next year Nokia will debut a phone(regardless of OS) with an intel chip in it.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by quipper8
First, remember that Nokia has already produced a tablet with Intel inside. That said, I would love to see an x86 compatible Intel chip in a Nokia smartphone.
I think the thing with intel and nokia is more about hardware than software. Intel probably wants to be able to put 3g or 4g radio processing stuff on chip and nokia has IP for that and who knows what nokia gets in return, maybe dibs on first run of these new processors.
Intel is getting it handed to them with all of the chips used in iphone,droid,n900 etc. they want to get into that market bad and the atom ain't going to get them there yet, so they are probably re-engineering something.
I would bet sometime next year Nokia will debut a phone(regardless of OS) with an intel chip in it.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by Rauha
There's more than ofono in the original press release:
I also got the impression that it was more about hardware than software. I think that the OS references are likely about stuff like Intel's and Nokia's oFono project for GSM telephony in Linux.
Open Source Software Collaboration
The effort also includes technology development and cooperation in several open source software initiatives in order to develop common technologies for use in the Moblin and Maemo platform projects, which will deliver Linux-based operating systems for these future mobile computing devices.
The companies are coordinating their Open Source technology selection and development investments, including alignment on a range of key Open Source technologies for Mobile Computing such as: oFono*, ConnMan*, Mozilla*, X.Org*, BlueZ*, D-BUS*, Tracker*, GStreamer*, PulseAudio*. Collectively, these technologies will provide an open source standards-based means to deliver a wealth of mobile Internet and communication experiences, with rich graphics and multimedia capabilities.
Hosted by the Linux Foundation, Moblin is an optimized open source Linux operating system project that delivers visually rich Internet media experiences on Intel® Atom(TM) processor-based devices including MIDs, netbooks, nettops, in-vehicle infotainment (IVI), and embedded systems. For more information see www.moblin.org.
Maemo is a Linux operating system, mostly based on open source code and powers mobile computers such as the Nokia N810 Internet Tablet. The Maemo platform has been developed by Nokia in collaboration with many open source projects. For more information see www.maemo.org.
Enabling common technologies across the Moblin and Maemo software environments will help foster the development of compatible applications for these devices - building on the huge number of off-the-shelf PC compatible applications. The open source projects will be governed using the best practices of the open source development model.
Remember the Intel/Nokia press release from June this year?
So the picture as I see it is that there's a ecosystem of several OS's for mobile internet devices forming around the Gnome universe, with Moblin being something like the one thing in the center of it that maybe shares most with all the others.
Maemo was (and still is) an active part of all this, up to and including Maemo 5.
Which is good. It helps moving code from one OS to the other. (ChromeOS being an exception, of course, but still...)
Now we know that Maemo will be slowly drifting away because of the Qt-decision. I don't know if other components will be changed, too, but the GTK-Qt-move is enough to make Maemo a distant cousin rather than a brother.
At least that's how it seems to me.
But: What was this Intel/Nokia agreement in June all about? Have we seen any outcome of this? I don't think we have. Thinking of Intel as "the Moblin world" and of Nokia as "the Maemo world", wouldn't it be reasonable to expect Maemo and Moblin moving closer together at least at some level? There's been no mention of it since June.
What does all this mean? Do you think the people behind Chrome OS, Ubuntu, Moblin and Maemo coordinate their efforts, even though they're working in completely different markets?
Or is all of this just happening more or less randomly, no plan, no common development?
And again: How does the press release from June fit in? What would we expect from a cooperation between Intel and Nokia? They state it's not only about hardware... Yet, we haven't seen anything software-wise. Is there something cooking behind the scenes?