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2009-12-02
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The N900 will get Maemo 6 on it. Mark my words. Go ahead, mark them.
Every tablet theyve come out with has lived through 2 versions of an OS. N900 will be no exception. Maemo 6 will run on the n900 when it's released.
Every tablet theyve come out with has lived through 2 versions of an OS. N900 will be no exception. Maemo 6 will run on the n900 when it's released.
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If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it.
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2009-12-02
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@ Vienna, Austria
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Originally Posted by UCOMM
It most likely means Q1/2011, judging from recent experiences. (And no, I'm not talking about the N900 here, but about the usual time between "Nokia introduces a phone" to "I can buy this phone in a shop nearby".)
anyway, second half of 2010 could still mean dec 2010 ;D
What I'd really be interested in (much more than the actual M6 device) is what all this means to the rumored 2nd Maemo 5 device. Cancelled because everthing's going Harmattan now? Was pure speculation and never planned, anyway? Will be coming in Q1/2010 as some expected? …?
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2009-12-02
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@ Hamilton, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by zerojay
well, take a look at this mate, Maemo5 is only recently announced which still very incomplete comparing it to OSX. My point is, they still can make money from new devices as long they keep their old device up to date with the latest technology. Since maemo5 is linux based, I dont see why It can't handle maemo 6?
Guys, I think you're overblowing things here. Even if Maemo 6 can't run on the N900, I'm pretty sure all the apps made for it will run on the N900 with community support.
If you aren't going to buy the N900 because there MIGHT be something six months down the line, you might as well never buy any electronics, gadgets or phones *ever* because there's always something coming down the line and soon.
What you're saying is you are buying a laptop running on windows XP or vista 6 months ago and then you buy another one that run windows 7 now? with the same bloody hardware spec (well slightly faster).
I'm saying since, maemo 5 is OpenSource then why limted it to just maemo5 when maemo6 is based on a very similar code and approach? I don't see what is the big hick up with Nokia not porting it to N900s. We are the consumer and we do not like to see what we buy now will be un-upgradable in this sort of time.
It is great that Maemo 6 supporting maemo 5 apps but we do want our N900 to run maemo 6 too. Via OS upgrade just like YDL 6.0 -> YDL 6.1 -> YDL 6.2 on PS3.
Take a look at Iphone 3G and 3GS lol they allowing a new OS upgrade to the latest software. Why can't NOKIA follow Apple success?
I believe if they do let N900 to run maemo6, there will be more happy customers and more people going for Nokia instead of Iphone 3GS in USA.
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2009-12-02
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@ Los Angeles, CA
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#15
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I guess everyone simply forget about 'Qt' ... please take a look of Maemo Summit slide ... it's all there.
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2009-12-02
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I agree with what everyone says, and if the hardware upgrade were substantial I may even consider upgrading. Nokia's aiming to compete with iPhone though, and outside of us, people like say, my mother and father are very aware of the fact that even their iPhone is older, they can still get updates for features their phone will support. If Nokia is looking to hit mass-market with Maemo, and it seems its gotten more attention than expected with the N900, they could shoot themselves in the foot on first impressions with the mass-market if they don't consider extending OS support on existing devices.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK
Nokia CEO Kallasvuo today said about 5% of customers opt out, whereas 95% opt in, that is they buy another Nokia device after the current one, if I remember correctly. With 1.2 billion customers this is a company that measures everything. Management is, and probably has to be quantitatively oriented. So they are likely to take a calculated risk, whether they decide to enable Maemo6 on N900 or not.
But CAN you upgrade Windows Mobile?
Such as HTC do tend to optimise for older hardware but only because they then sell it on to the various networks/companies which rebrand their devices. It makes them money, although often it means you have to obtain those updates unofficially as none of the companies actually bother to spend the money buying the rights.
Thing is, Nokia do not have that advantage. They are writing Maemo for their own devices (thus far) so in their eyes it does not make them any more money allowing upgrades on older devices, in fact it just costs them money.
Granted, I would argue it does make them money in the long run due to brand loyalty, but they do not seem to realise this. They are under the impression people will PAY to buy a newer device with the new software if they are told their old device will not be supported, not realising the will lose a certain amount of repeat custom taking that approach.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool
I think what we're going to see instead is either of two things:
well, take a look at this mate, Maemo5 is only recently announced which still very incomplete comparing it to OSX. My point is, they still can make money from new devices as long they keep their old device up to date with the latest technology. Since maemo5 is linux based, I dont see why It can't handle maemo 6?
What you're saying is you are buying a laptop running on windows XP or vista 6 months ago and then you buy another one that run windows 7 now? with the same bloody hardware spec (well slightly faster).
I'm saying since, maemo 5 is OpenSource then why limted it to just maemo5 when maemo6 is based on a very similar code and approach? I don't see what is the big hick up with Nokia not porting it to N900s. We are the consumer and we do not like to see what we buy now will be un-upgradable in this sort of time.
It is great that Maemo 6 supporting maemo 5 apps but we do want our N900 to run maemo 6 too. Via OS upgrade just like YDL 6.0 -> YDL 6.1 -> YDL 6.2 on PS3.
Take a look at Iphone 3G and 3GS lol they allowing a new OS upgrade to the latest software. Why can't NOKIA follow Apple success?
I believe if they do let N900 to run maemo6, there will be more happy customers and more people going for Nokia instead of Iphone 3GS in USA.
a) Nokia officially supports N900 with Maemo 6 or...
b) The community makes it's own version of Maemo 6 that does work on the N900, much like it has previously done with the "hacker edition" versions of OS2007 and OS2008 for the 770.
Honestly, I don't think N900 owners will have much to worry about. I'm sure they will be able to use Maemo 6 one way or another.
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2009-12-02
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@ Lisboa, Portugal
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Originally Posted by zerojay
And also, its not as if Nokia would just drop support for the OS as soon as the new model comes out. ..
I think what we're going to see instead is either of two things:
a) Nokia officially supports N900 with Maemo 6 or...
b) The community makes it's own version of Maemo 6 that does work on the N900, much like it has previously done with the "hacker edition" versions of OS2007 and OS2008 for the 770.
Honestly, I don't think N900 owners will have much to worry about. I'm sure they will be able to use Maemo 6 one way or another.
Even my old e61i got updated until few months ago when I decided to stop checking.
Nokia, differently than Apple, actually release their OS updates for free. And also, differently than Apple, lets say that for some weird reason they would not release it to n900. You can actually use your device with the port, as the up post mentioned. Not all companies let you have their new OS for free(Apple, MS anyone?!)
And they are thinking about this possibility of porting or not... Believe me.
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2009-12-02
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I admit it was bit surprising to hear Maemo6 announced even before N900 had hit the stores, but I'm not even slightly concerned that it wouldn't run on N900. Everybody keeps bringing up the capacitive factor, but it would seem really stupid to limit themselves to that, when they've been insisting on resistive for so long. Best to bring models for each and keep both sides happy 
In any case N900 has been promised QT patch soon, so even in that unlikely case Maemo6 wasn't available, pretty sure the bugfixes and new features will still be backported to Maemo5 too.
Of course this is all speculation, but I just can't get myself worrying about it no matter how many gloomy posts I read.
In any case N900 has been promised QT patch soon, so even in that unlikely case Maemo6 wasn't available, pretty sure the bugfixes and new features will still be backported to Maemo5 too.
Of course this is all speculation, but I just can't get myself worrying about it no matter how many gloomy posts I read.
This will be my last Nokia device if they do not fix the issues with it. Also, they will be even more irrelevant in another year with all the cool phones coming out left and right from other manufacturers so Maemo6 might be a non event when it comes out next year.