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2009-12-09
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"Nokia doesn't need to copy Apple, since most Apple innovations in the phone space were done by Nokia first."
That is a very bold statement. Care to elaborate?
That is a very bold statement. Care to elaborate?
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
and at the rate things are going we'll be using the iPhone for the next 5 years because apparently nobody is able to dethrone them. This is going to suck more and more because we will be at the whims of good ol' Steve.
"Apple has done nothing unique..."
Sure they didn't. They didn't bring about the flawless user experience, good looks and utility, coolness factor and the whole app services sector. Also, they didn't just obliterated any existing smart phone in 2007 with their iPhone. Everyone ever since keeps comparing every phone to the iPhone.
Either way, what's the point of this thread? It's called supply and demand. End of story. There is demand for a 600$ phone so it's completely irrelevant how much it costs to make the phone.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
You have just answered your own post. Clearly the N900 is underpriced
"Catch up"?!? Nokia owns 42% of the phone market to Apple's 1%. "
This was a typical Nokia fanboyish statement. With that 1% Apple made profits, outpaced everyone else, while Nokia with its 42% lost money and more than 5% market share (mostly to Apple). How would you explain that?
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2009-12-09
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Maemo.org needs some kind of "Battlefront" sub-forum for silly stuff like this. The current "Competitors" sub-forum is mostly discussion about hardware options.
Having a separate sub-forum, where wanna-be market analyst could clash, might bring the noise-volume ratio down to acceptable level on other parts of the forum.
Having a separate sub-forum, where wanna-be market analyst could clash, might bring the noise-volume ratio down to acceptable level on other parts of the forum.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy
The point of this thread was to enable people like you to weigh in with their opinions. Noone debates the supply-demand factor here. I simply stated that the current cost is a rip-off. Is it economically sound, logical, planned, defendable? Yes it is. But it is a rip-off nevertheless. We are humans with emotions and rip-off is a subjective statement. Thanks for joining in though.
Either way, what's the point of this thread? It's called supply and demand. End of story. There is demand for a 600$ phone so it's completely irrelevant how much it costs to make the phone.
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2009-12-09
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I`m not even close to agree with this thread ,
Sure comparing it with a laptop is a hight price but you have to add the cost of a cellphone + a 5 MP camera + GPS + the comfort of handling all this with your fingertips and put it on your jacket pocket (try to do that with a dual core cpu at 2.2 ghz, 8 usb ports, 4GB of super fast ram and 17 inch lcd).
Sure comparing it with a laptop is a hight price but you have to add the cost of a cellphone + a 5 MP camera + GPS + the comfort of handling all this with your fingertips and put it on your jacket pocket (try to do that with a dual core cpu at 2.2 ghz, 8 usb ports, 4GB of super fast ram and 17 inch lcd).
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by Megacrazy
With the way Apple does business, they guarantee themselves they will never dominant the market. They'll have a sizable marketshare but I doubt it'll ever cross 50%.
and at the rate things are going we'll be using the iPhone for the next 5 years because apparently nobody is able to dethrone them. This is going to suck more and more because we will be at the whims of good ol' Steve.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Size.
Let me explain...If we take an N900 with a hypothetical $500 price and compare the hardware internals of an identically priced laptop, it is clear that the N900 should cost about $150-200.
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Any counter arguments?
It's a lot more expensive when you need to reduce the surface space. Just compare an N900 to the price of an unsubsidized iPhone 3gs.
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2009-12-09
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
There's an old Finnish proverb:
But it is a rip-off nevertheless. We are humans with emotions and rip-off is a subjective statement.
Persaukisille on kaikki kallista.
Like you said, it is subjective. I just ordered an N900 from Amazon and don't consider it expensive at all. My first GSM phone in 1994 was more expensive even without adjusting the price for inflation.
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Sure they didn't. They didn't bring about the flawless user experience, good looks and utility, coolness factor and the whole app services sector. Also, they didn't just obliterated any existing smart phone in 2007 with their iPhone. Everyone ever since keeps comparing every phone to the iPhone.