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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
...When a guy ask for directions to the cinema, and you answer: "get a map", this is not helpful, just arrogant...
I disagree. You assume that finding a map is a lot more difficult than giving directions. This however is only true in RL, on the intertubes they are equally easy/difficult. So asking about something that is in the manual is plain laziness deserving only of reproach.

How else are the kids going to learn?

Even though this Orange-dude is a confused soul, you still managed to prove his point.
I agree with that point. The OB manages consistently to flame the community and bring people to his nonsense threads, proving to some extent how immature we all act sometimes.
 

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Sopwith: second place. But it's close!
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Sopwith: Thanks for the great game!

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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
You are of cource 100% correct, but that doesn't mean this is not insulting, or intimidating or arrogant, and not very helpfull. When a guy ask for directions to the cinema, and you answer: "get a map", this is not helpful, just arrogant.

Even though this Orange-dude is a confused soul, you still managed to prove his point.
Ok - but lets consider that request in context.

1) You ask me for directions the following way. "Hey dickhead - where is the cinema". Which is the equivalent of both the OP original thread and many of the "This sucks" threads.

2) You ask me for directions to the cinema while I am standing right next to a city map. Then demand I read the map for you and tell you where to go rather than reading it yourself. Which is the same as demanding a noob guide to xterm here etc while there are many already available on the net.
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Theory 1: only 30% of the users of the forum are "egoistical, i-know-it-all type geeks" that have no respect for others
 

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Originally Posted by OrangeBox View Post
Before you start posting insulting remarks to this thread take a deep breath and check out some of the iPhone forums out there and LEARN that there is a better way.

Peace.
In an effort to be as open-minded and objective as possible, I did as you said and tried to check out (what I believe) is the official iPhone forum. To expedite my research, I used the common search function.

discussions.apple.com

The Official iPhone forum, found here, yields only 4 results when doing a keyword search for "n900" over the last year. doubting that the N900 was discussed with such infrequency, I did a google search of the entire discussion portion of the site for 'n900', in which all direct references of the N900 had been removed.

I then decided to browse the actual forum, reading through the threads located under "Recent threads in this category", since I believe that is analogous to reading threads found under "New Posts" here. Here are my observations:

  • Any post mentioning the N900 in any great detail were promptly removed
  • People posting there have enough sense to recognize that the forum is for people that are interested in the iPhone, and not the N900.
  • Complaints about the iPhone are generally well structured, as opposed to the complaints here, tend to (in the cases where negative responses are received) be formed as such to come off as a rant
  • Being a closed platform, there isn't much technical advise that is given beyond "restart, reset, restore" or "return your iPhone, it's broken".
In conclusion, while I can understand your (IMHO poorly communicated) frustrations with the ecosystem of this forum, to compare it with that of the iPhone's official forum is an apples to oranges comparison. I would even go far as to say it would be like comparing politics in a communist government with one in a democratic one, with these observations:
  • The voice of the people who fall under a communist government are not generally made public, particularly if they conflict with the voice of the government itself
  • Democratic governments tend to be more liberal in that their are typically less repercussions associated with giving feedback, regardless of if it is negative or positive
  • The structure for implementing change is dramatically different between the two governments, and in the former case people tend to be less vocal about issues, knowing that it is out of their hands whether or not and whenever that change gets implemented.
  • Conversely, in the latter case there is more risk for instability/turmoil because of the lack of a rigid structure, which can potentially prevent less problems.
Nothing above is to suggest that one system is better than the other, but rather that they are different, and as such when measuring particular aspects of them are impossible to compare fairly. I also tried to make my comparisons of them relative to the difference between our and iPhones communities, so if anyone finds that I digressed too far, then I apologize ahead of time.
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Originally Posted by Sopwith View Post
I disagree. You assume that finding a map is a lot more difficult than giving directions.
Actually I didn't assume that. "Go searching the net" is not a good and friendly answer. If the answer was a link to a "Linux for dummys" on this site with examples on the N900, that would be a helpfull and friendly answer.
 

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Originally Posted by 2disbetter View Post
Sopwith: Thanks for the great game!

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I am only a fan, I have nothing to do with coding the game. Great game nevertheless (I played it a lot a while ago, on a 086), but i deserve no credit for it.
 
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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
Actually I didn't assume that. "Go searching the net" is not a good and friendly answer. If the answer was a link to a "Linux for dummys" on this site with examples on the N900, that would be a helpfull and friendly answer.
There you go http://tinyurl.com/y9wrn3b
 

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Theory 1: only 30% of the users of the forum are "egoistical, i-know-it-all type geeks" that have no respect for others
Brilliant.
 
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