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2009-12-30 , 17:30
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#11
Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
Thanks to your help it works!!!

Is there a possibility to get the whole N900 Gui (not only a terminal like with Putty) onto my laptop (which is running WinXP?)
that is possible too, using x11vnc - it's in extras-devel, so the usual disclaimers apply (it can be dangerous and brick your device!!), but once installed, you can use vncviewer on your laptop and connect to the n900.
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Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
Thanks to your help it works!!!

Is there a possibility to get the whole N900 Gui (not only a terminal like with Putty) onto my laptop (which is running WinXP?)
you can add X forwarding. in linux it is "ssh -X ..." in putty i don't know.
but for real look on screen you will need to install VNC server on phone. I know it is in repository......
And on XP you should use VNC viewer......
 

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Originally Posted by SubCore View Post
that is possible too, using x11vnc - it's in extras-devel, so the usual disclaimers apply (it can be dangerous and brick your device!!), but once installed, you can use vncviewer on your laptop and connect to the n900.
I read about this too "x11vnc" and tried to install it. But the programm manager told me "that it is not available" when trying to download it during the installation process. I tried to install from https://garage.maemo.org/projects/x11vnc/
Any other sources?!?
 
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Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
I read about this too "x11vnc" and tried to install it. But the programm manager told me "that it is not available" when trying to download it during the installation process. I tried to install from https://garage.maemo.org/projects/x11vnc/
Any other sources?!?
you can use x-term:
1. sudo gainroot
2. apt-get update
3. apt-cache search vnc
It is for search package. you will get:
max-n900:~# apt-cache search vnc
vncviewer - A VNC viewer for maemo
x11vnc - VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session
max-n900:~#
4. apt-get install x11vnc

you can do same if use ssh with root but you should start from 2.

Or you can try to install "pc-connectivity-manager" it will install to you VNC server and some other utilits for connectivity.....
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Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
I read about this too "x11vnc" and tried to install it. But the programm manager told me "that it is not available" when trying to download it during the installation process. I tried to install from https://garage.maemo.org/projects/x11vnc/
Any other sources?!?
hehe, you have to change your windows-thinking
under linux (and especially debian-based distros such as maemo), you don't download single installation files, you use repositories. this has several advantages, among them automatic updates and automatic resolving of dependencies.

x11vnc is in extras-devel, just follow the instructions there. but again the warning - you're entering unstable territory, so best disable extras-devel right after you installed x11vnc!
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Originally Posted by mikhmv View Post
you can use x-term:
1. sudo gainroot
2. apt-get update
3. apt-cache search vnc
It is for search package. you will get:

4. apt-get install x11vnc

you can do same if use ssh with root but you should start from 2.

Or you can try to install "pc-connectivity-manager" it will install to you VNC server and some other utilits for connectivity.....
Thanks, I tried this. At step 3, not four but only one app was found: vncviewer
I then simply tried step and got
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package x11vnc

I googled for pc-connectivity manager, too. Looks to me as if version 0.7.14 is the latest.
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...anager/0.7.14/
I downloaded the zip-file
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...7.14_armel.deb
But what do I do with it?

Sorry that I am kinda lost. This is only my second linux/maemo day...
 
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Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
Thanks, I tried this. At step 3, not four but only one app was found: vncviewer
that's because you don't have the repositories where it's located added to your catalogue.

the pc-connectivity-manager has x11vnc as a dependency, but it also is found in the extras-devel repository (you can see that both URLs you posted contain "extras-devel").

if you install the .deb you downloaded via "dpkg", which is the commandline tool for handling .deb packages, it will complain about missing dependencies, so really the best way for you if you want x11vnc is to add the extras-devel repository as described on the wiki page i posted earlier, and disabling it after installation.

yes, extras-devel can be dangerous, but googling for an application and downloading .debs can be even more dangerous, and in this case, google led you right back to extras-devel anyways
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Originally Posted by plutonium239 View Post
Thanks, I tried this. At step 3, not four but only one app was found: vncviewer
I then simply tried step and got
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package x11vnc

I googled for pc-connectivity manager, too. Looks to me as if version 0.7.14 is the latest.
http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...anager/0.7.14/
I downloaded the zip-file
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...7.14_armel.deb
But what do I do with it?

Sorry that I am kinda lost. This is only my second linux/maemo day...
First read posts from SubCore about it is dangerous and so......
Second you should enable Extras-devel repository.

#Application manager --> Application catalogs --> New
And fill following lines:
Catalog name: Maemo Extras-devel
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel
Distribution: fremantle
Components: free non-free

And Same for Extras-testing (it is less dangerous than devel)

Application manager --> Application catalogs --> New
Catalog name: maemo.org extras-testing
Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing
Distribution: fremantle
Components: free non-free

after this use my script with apt-get update....

In general, here is very good advice from SubCore:
hehe, you have to change your windows-thinking
under linux (and especially debian-based distros such as maemo), you don't download single installation files, you use repositories. this has several advantages, among them automatic updates and automatic resolving of dependencies.
In linux is better add repository and after this use "apt-get".
Don't download directly files and programs.
If you add correct repositories command "apt-get install pc-connectivity-manager" will install you connectivity manager and all packages from which it depend (including vnc-server and applet for control it from status menu). If you will install it from repositories then you can easily upgrade with new versions by commands:
1. apt-get update
2. apt-get upgrade
And when will be available update you will get notification...
 

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#19
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exactly. this applies to any phone/device on 3G, btw.
It depends on the operator. At least Elisa, Finland gives me a public IP address I can ssh to.
 

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It depends on the operator. At least Elisa, Finland gives me a public IP address I can ssh to.
I have T-Mobile USA with the old 'Unlimited Internet with VPN' plan, and use the 'internet3.voicestream.com' apn, which also gives you a public IP address. However, when I try to ssh or vnc into it I get no response. It does respond to pings though.

Anyone have any ideas how to get around that?
 
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