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#611
Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Please vote for bug #5797.
As Flandry said, you now need to create a BrainStorm.

Let us all know when you do, I'll vote.
 
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#612
oh i still have the same camera bug though. the bug that will not allowed you to delete the picture when you don't want them or a bad shot. you can't discarding it. Though it asked you if you want to delete the picture and you said yes. But when you go to gallery it will still be there undeleted. very annoyed bug.
 
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#613
Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
That bug has been closed pending a brainstorm to come up with a consensus on "correct" behaviour. I suggest you create a Brainstorm issue and post your desired solution, and we can vote there to decide how to resolve this.
Why does everything that is so friggin basic have to go to brainstorm? Give people a choice. I know 'choice' goes against Nokia's policy and the design of this thing so won't hold my breath, but what could be any better than letting customers choose what they want (uh, not by debates amongst a few, but adding functionality that gives the end holder of the device choice)? Then everyone is happy instead of only a percentage of customers even if Nokia has to work a little harder to get you to buy another product from them and begin to slow down their huge dropping in market share for this category.

Good grief. I don't think Nokia/maemo could be any more out of touch with customer expectations/wants/needs.
 

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#614
Originally Posted by hex900 View Post
Why does everything that is so friggin basic have to go to brainstorm?

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Good grief. I don't think Nokia/maemo could be any more out of touch with customer expectations/wants/needs.
As he put it in the bugzilla, that's a place for "no brainer" reports of things that are clearly broken or not complete. This particular bug report had requests going back and forth, with some pleading not to change it. Hence, it's not a "no brainer" or "friggen basic" (as you so eloquently put it) bug report, but an issue to discuss and vote on. Think of Brainstorm as a place to consider all the possibilities and chose the best one (or more), and the bugzilla to report broken apps.

It doesn't mean that choice of either option won't be the final outcome, but it means we've considered it and it's not just the whim of a few random people.

My personal preference is to have auto-pause, so i'll vote on the brainstorm issue and vote on one or more solutions to that effect if you'll set it up.

Also, FYI there is a community app to do this right now.
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Classic example of arbitrary Nokia decision making. Couldn't just fallback to the no brainer of tagging with lat/lon if network isn't accessible, could you Nokia?
MAME: an arcade in your pocket
Accelemymote: make your accelerometer more joy-ful

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#615
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6936 doesn't seem to be in the list from the sticky post with fix that should be in PR1.1...

That's awkward as this disables SIP for any practical use for basically everyone i know!
I hope this can be fixed in a simple farsight/telepathy update !
 
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#616
Originally Posted by hex900 View Post
Why does everything that is so friggin basic have to go to brainstorm? Give people a choice. I know 'choice' goes against Nokia's policy and the design of this thing so won't hold my breath, but what could be any better than letting customers choose what they want (uh, not by debates amongst a few, but adding functionality that gives the end holder of the device choice)? Then everyone is happy instead of only a percentage of customers even if Nokia has to work a little harder to get you to buy another product from them and begin to slow down their huge dropping in market share for this category.

Good grief. I don't think Nokia/maemo could be any more out of touch with customer expectations/wants/needs.
While I would prefer choice (Nokia has axed some things I actually liked.. one thing they're removing in the 1.1 update is the ability to use the softkeyboard to cap, space, delete, etc.. with swipes) soembody posted a reason why choice wouldn't work in the long run.

Choice means having to test multiple configurations, leading to more issues and slower releases of firmware. Unless Nokia decided to support one method and just leave the other choice the "unpaved path". Basically meaning they wouldn't test it but they leave it in.

Only problem is that would mean that it would confuse people so maybe hide the option.

I would prefer that solution over their way or the highway though.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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#617
GPS WORKS! I got a connection within seconds! The maps application is now usuable! And The movie player isnt buggy- the movies play with hestitation. The music player doesnt get interrupted with all the other applications running!
The internet seems to connect better on Gprs and faster with 2.5g.

The battery still sucks, and the phone volume still goes off and on during calls so i have to stick to using my microphone headset.

Overall the phone runs smoother with more applications.
 
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#618
Originally Posted by R-R View Post
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6936 doesn't seem to be in the list from the sticky post with fix that should be in PR1.1...
Yeah, i experienced that same issue. We can hope he just forgot to close the issue when it was closed internally, but i suspect it's not coming in 1.1. We can always hope for single-app updates someday. Someday...

Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
Unless Nokia decided to support one method and just leave the other choice the "unpaved path". Basically meaning they wouldn't test it but they leave it in.

Only problem is that would mean that it would confuse people so maybe hide the option.
You just described Red Pill Mode better than i've ever heard it put.

And your point about choices is true. It also adds complexity to the UI, which isn't a huge deal here or there, but adds up.
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#619
I updated mine this afternoon in Chicago without any problems. After the reboot, music just appeared when I went into the Media Player (instead of loading slowly) and the rest of the device seemed to behave a little better. Everything I did usually just worked a little smoother. Still some annoyances, but it's a good start! Looking forward to 1.1.
 
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#620
Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
Here's the simplest answer to your question: if you at any time accepted the warning given in the preamble to all descriptions of how to enable Extras-devel or Extras-testing repository, and installed one or more apps from those repositories, you should know about it. And those are the only candidates if you've got unoptified packages installed. If in doubt, uninstall all the ones you installed from the testing and development repos.
I know I know. I´m just curious about how this system works. I do know that if i install programs from those repositories I´m "obligated" to make bug raports and not to whine

Now, if your question is how do you know which packages are the offenders when looking through your root partition and finding large files, the dpkg -S is what you want.

dpkg -S /opt/bounce/bin/bounce

returns:
bounce

Which is the name of the package that file belongs to. Obviously this is a trivial case, but it is useful if you are browsing through your rootfs and find a big file, and want to know what package put it there.

"Bounce" is not a filename anywhere on your system, which is why it didn't return anything. "bounce" would have returned a bunch of entries, most of them (not surprising) belonging to the bounce package.

This post and the one it quoted may also be useful for you if you are trying to track down the culprits:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=19

But the easiest way to be sure, as i said, is to remove anything in testing or development.
So this just confirms what I was afraid. It is just how system works or is made? I do have pclos installed on my computer and one of the biggest grief for me as windows user is that after uninstalls and installs it gradually fills with different kind of libraries. With google you can find 1+n different stories how to handle unused files and libs that do not have any dependyces left, but on the another hand there is same amount of user telling that you should not touch and just buy more space and do not think about how files are scattered across filesystem because that's too complicated. And I have to say that this is true it's too complicated at least for me :| Single books are not scattered across my bookself :P Sorry for bad example but that's how i see this.

But thank you. Now i know another command which does one or another thing and I will look in that script.

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Originally Posted by egoshin
BTW, the solution "remove applications installed from Extras-devel or Extras-testing" does not work actually - most of them pulls HUGE libraries to root file space and that libraries are NOT automatically removed by application removal. You should target it specifically with red pill ON + careful research of packages dependencies OR use 'dpkg autoremove' from X-Terminal root shell... with some luck...
So yep. This is same thing what I have also learnt from different distros. So I´m on constant velocity to reflash (using extras testing and development)

Last edited by slender; 2010-01-12 at 07:56.
 
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